Professional Bees – Would you take/stay at job that only gave 5 day of vacation?

posted 2 years ago in Career
  • poll: Would you take a job that only offered 5 day of vacation time?
    Yes! : (2 votes)
    2 %
    No! : (106 votes)
    94 %
    Maybe... I'll explain below : (5 votes)
    4 %
  • Post # 16
    Member
    6428 posts
    Bee Keeper

    pussinboots07 :  Fuck no.  We accrue get 15 days of vacation and 12 days of sick in a year.  However we can accrue up to 900 hours of sick before we have to use them, and the same thing for vacation.

    Post # 17
    Member
    565 posts
    Busy bee
    • Wedding: May 2015

    I had a job that offered the same (not STEM, so little chance it was with the same company). The salary was much more than other offers and I just took at least 10 days in unpaid leave every year, still came out ahead financially. There were the never-on-leave office martyrs who rolled their eyes when I mentioned I would be away but who cares. I exceedes my professional obligations and took some great vacations, too.

    Post # 18
    Member
    2171 posts
    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: October 2013

    5 days? That’s nothing. Are they offered more PTO after they’ve been there for a certain amount of service time? My company is global and you start with 10 vacation days plus 5 sick days and 3 floating holidays. After only two years you get 15 vacation days and every few years you get an extra week until you tap out at 30 per year. I can’t imagine only 5, that’s nothing. I’d keep looking. 

    Post # 19
    Member
    79 posts
    Worker bee
    • Wedding: June 2018

    Only if I was making a LOT of money.

    Post # 20
    Member
    869 posts
    Busy bee

    pinkshoes :  I’ve never worked for a company that allows unpaid time off (mainly large Fortune 500 companies & one smaller privately held one).  

     

    If this company is this restrictive with benefits, I doubt they do either. 

    Post # 21
    Member
    353 posts
    Helper bee

    ugh that’s terrible. I would not take the job- I get 25 days/year + 11 holidays and when my SO took a job earlier this year with only 15 days I balked! 

    Post # 22
    Member
    869 posts
    Busy bee

    pussinboots07 :  Is 5 days PTO just for the first year of employment, or the max the company ever offers?  

     

    If it were just for year 1 and the company provided the PTO “ladder” for additional days at 2 years, 5 years, etc of service AND it was a very well paying job right out of school, I’d definitely consider it.

     

    If that’s all the ever offer, then absolutely no.  Not with $1 million salary if you have no time to relax, recharge, or visit family. 

    Post # 23
    Member
    14900 posts
    Honey Beekeeper
    • Wedding: June 2011

    dgirl715 :  I work for a fortune 500 and have been told it’s super easy.  There’s a drop down in our time keeping system that says unpaid time off to fill in if needed.  But maybe we’re the oddball…. we’re also salaried, but get paid overtime.

    Post # 24
    Member
    6306 posts
    Bee Keeper

    If it’s really just five days? Absolutely not. And I’m a bit of a workaholic. 

    Post # 25
    Member
    6018 posts
    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: September 2016

    Only 5 days of PTO where I have to be in an office at a desk 5 days a week with really rigid guidelines and a salary of 100,000k or less per year would be an oh hell no for me.

    5 days of PTO where I’m making 300,000k plus per year and could work from home whenever I wanted and could take unpaid time off and had plenty of flexibility otherwise I would consider.

    I’d also wonder how those vacation/PTO days scale up. If the time scales up nicely, that might also make me more open to considering it.

    For several years I didn’t even really take vacation time from my jobs so it’s not like it’s absolutely impossible to manage only getting 5 days off. But I don’t like feeling restricted. I want the time available to use how I prefer (or not).

    ETA- I wanted to come back and say I’m answering this question as someone who currently has a job I love, making a great salary, with an excellent benefits package that includes work from home, paid family leave and a 4 day work week. If I was a mother offered this job and didn’t have anything else available I would take it in a heartbeat and then continue looking for something better while I do what I needed to do to take care of my family.

    Post # 26
    Member
    678 posts
    Busy bee

    Nope, unless it was enough money that I could work for a year, jump ship to a lower paying, better benefits job, and still have a ton of savings in the bank from the year I worked my ass off. If that’s not the case, it’s not nearly worth it. 

    Post # 27
    Member
    9813 posts
    Buzzing Beekeeper
    • Wedding: September 2013

    Probably not.  If you can take unpaid leave whenever you want and the pay is enough then I don’t see a problem.  Or if it’s only 5 days the first year and then it goes up accordingly a week the next year (at least) although even 10 days is too little IMO.  I get 28 days of PTO a year plus 10 days of sick leave each year and holidays so even going to 15days PTO would hurt for me unless unpaid time off was okay and the salary diff made up for it.

    Post # 28
    Member
    751 posts
    Busy bee

    PTO days and vacation days are generally not the same thing. PTO days are like sick/personal days for the year, and are given in addition to vacation. The law in most places demands tgat a minimum 3 PTO days are to be given per year in addition to the legal minimum for vacation time.

    Are you sure your friend didn’t misunderstand?

    Post # 29
    Member
    43 posts
    Newbee
    • Wedding: July 2018

    That’s crazy, I’m from Australia and full time employees get a minimum of four weeks annual leave a year. I feel like even that can be restrictive at times. I would not be able to maintain my mental health with only 5 days off a year.

    Post # 30
    Member
    873 posts
    Busy bee
    • Wedding: March 2010

    My husband’s contract only allows for 13 days of PTO, bank holidays off and zero sick days. He even has to use PTO for medical appointments/anything where he’s not at work for legitimate reasons. He also doesn’t get paid breaks or lunch time. As long as he plans ahead, he can take unpaid time off. He can also work flex hours so he works four 11-hour days each week, getting a three day weekend. HOWEVER -even then, it feels like he gets zero time off, is always at work and we can never do anything. And the work week is so exhausting that at the end of each week he’s basically recovering to do it all over again. So even flex hours aren’t always a practical answer, imho. It’s awful. I couldn’t imagine getting LESS days off. 

    TLDR: unless it was a TON of money (like 75% more or double) and they allow flex hours and unpaid time off, I’d say hell no as well. 

    ETA: flex hours are good in theory. But if you have a long commute like me and my husband, it’s possibly not a sustainable long term solution. Add 2+ hours of driving to an extended work day four days in a row just to get an extra weekend day might not be worth it like ya think it would be. It basically just renders 4 days a week as worthless for literally anything but work/sleep/commute.

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