Post # 1
I can’t post this on FB, so I’m posting it here (I think it’s poor form to complain about students where your friends, and sometimes former students!, and co-workers can see). But no one on here knows who I am, so I’ll take advantage of the anonymity to vent a little.
Why, WHY, WHY do some of my students write papers that are 500-1000 words short of the requirement, and then enlarge the font to make them look longer???? It’s the whole reason I go by word count anyway, to try to avoid the ridiculous lengths (pardon the pun) students will go to in order to hide the fact that they are faking it in the paper!
By The Way, any students on here: almost all professors know all the tricks, including the one where you just enlarge the font on the punctuation, which increases the page count by about a third of a page. Can I ask why not just write another paragraph, since it seems like the same amount of work??
I have here a paper that is in 16 point font, instead of the required 12 pt. Am I not supposed to notice??
I’m going to be in a bad, bad mood for the next week and a half until this semester is over.
Post # 3
I’ve been a TA for years now… I’ve seen them adjust the margins by several cm, increase the punctuation font size (I had definitely never heard of that as a student!), the 12.5 font, line spacing that’s more 2.5 than double spacing… It’d be nice if they showed as much creativity in their work as they do in their endeavor to be sneaky…
Post # 4
Heh. People are dumb.
Personally I HATE word count required papers because someitmes the point can be made outside the required word count, there shouldn’t be a need to uselessly fluff for more words when the needed things have been said. But I manage to not increase the text size to get there…. How do they think bigger words means more words??
Post # 5
My other favorite trick is when decide to put in two inch margins. I’m not sure how they think I won’t notice it.
I feel your pain.
Post # 6
@ProfessorGirl: As a professor, is this your biggest pet peeve? Just curious.
Post # 7
- Wedding: March 2012 - Pelican Grand Beach Resort
I require submission electronically so I can check the word count myself. I feel for you.
Post # 8
Honestly, I love to write. I love to write. Being concise is very important to me and I have always disagreed with a length requirement.
Post # 9
Better than what my friend is dealing with….a student turned in a paper they wrote for a prior class…leaving on the old professor’s name…who is now Dean of the Ethics dept…did I mention this was for an ethics class? 20% of her students in one class cheated. I’ve taught ethics too and I’ve had 4 students cheat in 4 terms. It’s very sad.
Post # 10
- Wedding: March 2012 - Pelican Grand Beach Resort
@chasesgirl: We carefully think about the appropriate number of words necessary for a student with clear, succinct prose to accomplish the task set out in the writing prompt. We don’tjust choose, say, 3000 words at random. And if the word count is preset by the course description, then we choose a prompt appropriate for that length.
Post # 11
@rosyQ87: I had an experience once with Google Docs in which I was unable to set the margins to a standard form, and then it had the audacity not to even recognize all of the citations I had put in the paper. For some reason, it printed out my text only, and there was a glaring quarter page at the bottom where all of my sources should have been foot noted, but were missing. This only happened when I printed out the pages; they were showing up on the screen, but would not print with the document. It was an abhorrent day.
As a poor student, I was trying to avoid spending $ on Microsoft Word since my lap top had not come loaded with the program, but after that stupid foray into senselessness, I have since sprang for Word.
Post # 12
Because fluffing papers and filling it with BS and repetition just to meet a certain “length” in my opinion completely compromises the piece . So to mentally justify the requirement, kids look for ways to compensate. ( there is no excuse for 16 pt font because thats just obvious you don’t care)
I just wrote the papers in the correct formating but let them come up short. Didn’t seem to bother my professors grade wise.
Post # 13
@mrsSonthebeach: Meh, I still say if a student can make the required point in 6 sentences, they make it in six sentences, but on that same token should they chose to write 10 pages and not make the point, they get the grade they deserve based on how well they made the point and not the length of the paper. Of course I have gotten into classes that are technical writing, not “English” writing so no one wants fluff, make the point and move along.
Post # 14
I have this posted in my room (obviously tongue-in-cheek):
1. The professor is always right.
2. If you think the professor is wrong, refer to rule #1.
They REALLY think they can get away with margin-changing, font-changing, etc. Little do they know we can spot Times New Roman size 12.5. 🙂
It is frustrating though. I have to force myself NOT to get mad…just to get even (j/k).
Post # 15
@StuporDuck: When I’m grading, it definitely is. If someone had any trouble coming up with an idea for a paper, or needed help developing that idea or improving the paper in any way, they can ask for help. I help students in my office and over email all the time. My college has an excellent writing center. And if they want to ignore those resources and turn in crappy nonsense, that’s their thing. Whatever. But to hide it in a way that would only work if I’m completely stupid is incredibly annoying. I have so many students who do wonderful work, and impress me all the time. The slackers really stand out.
I have two in-class pet peeves: One is texting – but I now have a policy to count students absent if I see them doing that, so it hardly ever happens anymore. The other is students not reading for class. I don’t spoon feed. I want to say to them: This is grown up school. You have to actually do stuff to learn here.
Post # 16
@ProfessorGirl: I’m a non-traditional student (30, went back for degree), and during my first semester back, I was shocked at the texting going on, personally. I’ve always felt like that’s blatantly disrespectful. And napping. I hate that. If I see a napper in front or to the side of me, I make it a point to “drop” something really loud. If you want to sleep, stay home. I didn’t come to class to hear you snore.