Post # 1
So I asked my friend to be my Matron of Honor last year…I’ve known her since 5th grade. I also have a Maid of Honor as well. I had a hard time picking one person over 4 people…so I picked two people. I am for sure on my Maid of Honor. I picked my Matron because she’s also a close friend too. The 3rd person, I would have picked I have recently been close to the last 5 years. The Matron of Honor has been someone I’ve pictured being my Maid/Matron of Honor forever.
However, in March/April…she breaks it to me she is pregnant. However last month, I heard she is due the day after my wedding, however has delivered both babies early. She also messed up in 2003 during her bachelorette party by being selfish and nacissistic…by leaving me and two other bridesmaids and friends and going off to party at other clubs with the Maid/Matron of Honor and her old college roommates. She thought we were running out of money and were going to call it a night..when we said we are going to the hotel to figure out what we want to do next. So messed up!!! Everytime I go to Las Vegas, we are reminded of it.
Anyways, I’m doing my wedding website…and I’m revealing my bridal party. I am convinced by my bachelorette party in NOLA (New Orleans)…(which my Matron of Honor did not attend…and did not contribute to my travel fund…until she realized how many people contributed for all the other stuff I did for other people while growing up..birthdays, wedding and bridal/baby showers). My Maid of Honor asked money from good friends and they had the generosity of donating even though they were not able to go. My Matron of Honor also has slacked on helping me with wedding stuff and said she can’t help me with flowers because she said she is pregnant plus she has been busy with planning her other 2 cousins wedding…when I told her about my wedding first and she said she would help me. It’s been frustrating. I know she’s busy…but I already know that she’s going to give birth close to my wedding and will not be there 100% of the time for me. She’s only given me a check list and help me with some assembly of invitations, told me she can’t help me with flowers, and has flaked out on helping me find stuff for my wedding.
So…yes, I really want to demote her and promote my bridesmaid who has been there all along. I should have picked her in the first place anyways. She’s my homegirl and hasn’t let me down.
So…I want to tell her that it will be close to the wedding when she gives birth…and it’s concerning me. I need her to be there 100%..and I can’t count on it. I can’t mention the messed up stuff she did before to a pregnant person. How can I tell her …without hurting her feelings and still salvage the friendship. I hope she understands.
Please help thanks….I’m going to tell her tomorrow afternoon.
Post # 3
I’m so glad I decided not to have bridesmaids.
I think the concern about the birth being so close to the wedding is a good approach. You will probably hurt her feelings no matter what you do, but that seems like the best way to frame it, and it is a really legitimate reason. Maybe you could word it so it sounds a little more like you are wanting to take the burden off her, too. Like “I’m concerned about the due date being so close the the wedding, partly because I will need to know 100% that my maid of honor will be there and helping me; and partly because the maid of honor’s role is time consuming adn comes with so many obligations. You have so many things you need to do to prepare for the baby, and I don’t want my wedding to take away from that time. So, I think the best solution is to have [homegirl] be my maid of honor and take on all those duties and responsibilities.”
And do you actually have to demote her in title? can’t you still call her your Matron of Honor without giving her any of the duties? I know people that had both a Maid and a Matron of Honor. If this would be ok with you, it would probably hurt her feelings less because she gets to keep the title.
Post # 4
In my opinion, Matron of Honor has done nothing wrong. She is not obliged to travel cross country to a bachelorette party or contribute to it. (If other people want to take you to New Orleans that’s their business but it’s a bit rich expecting someone to pay for it who can’t go). She hasn’t “slacked” … she is not obliged to help with flowers or find things for your wedding. If people do that, that’s wonderful, but it’s not obligatory in my book.
The only issue is the pregnancy. I always think it’s best to not be in the bridal party if your due date is within a month of the wedding. Your best bet is to talk to her about whether she’s available for the wedding and whether it’s best that she not be in the bridal party.
Post # 5
I agree with @paula1248. It doesn’t really sound like she’s done anything seriously wrong. There’s nothing wrong with her not going to your bachelorette, especially if she’s pregnant (why would she travel so far just to see other people drink?). As for not helping with wedding planning…well, loads of people just don’t care about weddings! It sounds as though she’s tried to help you out with a few things, despite her being busy, so that doesn’t really seem like a valid reason to demote her.
Given that she’s due around the time of your wedding, though, I think it’s definitely worth you having a chat with her about her availability and whether she still feels capable of being part of your wedding – in a nice way, of course!
Post # 6
I agree with PPs she has not done anything wrong at all. do not demote her, but ask if she is still happy to be in the wedding given that she is due around the time of your wedding. leave it up to her
Post # 7
Actually, she never told me her due day, just the month. I had to find out from other people. I’m really concerned that she won’t be 100% there. What if by chance she delivers that day?! I’ve been in other weddings where I was the bridesmaid and all the Maid/Matron of Honor and bridesmaids except one were sitting pretty 90% of tone while me and her busted out butts. Plus she has that track record of leaving us in Vegas but I won’t bring that up. I love her but she can be a narcissist at times. I need her to be understanding of this. Its my wedding not hers. I just don’t want to give her the title and spare her feelings because shes pregnant. Its important that she be there hor her daughter. Hopefully she’ll understand.
Post # 8
I still want her to be a bridesmaid no matter what. This matron of honor left her 3 of her bridesmaids and some other friends in Vegas intentionally for her selfish reasons and she has barely helped me while she has helped with two of her cousins doeverything. She was even the minister for one of them. I’ve asked her to help me find my dress, pick up my dress but she’s been to busy because she traveled to Hawaii or had something elseto do. I have 4 best friends. So really I could have picked either of them. Most importantly, she needs to be there for her daughter and I need someone that is 100% there
Post # 9
well if you want to demote her there is no way to do it really without hurting feelings, only you know the best way to minimise the hurt
Post # 10
@jussanuthagrl: I think you can completely disregard the Vegas thing – that was a completely seperate incident NINE YEARS AGO. Perhaps she didn’t tell you her exact due date because she was worried you would panic about whether or not she could be there.
Your comment about her being 100% there is a little confusing – are you expecting her to come to the wedding, then rush off to give birth? Her availability, unfortunately, will depend entirely upon her pregnancy and her health around the the time of giving birth. If you don’t want a Maid/Matron of Honor that may not be able to attend, then talk with her about it. I’m sure she’ll be reasonable and understand that you want a Maid/Matron of Honor that can do xyz in the lead-up to the wedding.
Post # 11
If her baby comes on your wedding well then you have your wedding minus her but you take the time to give her a call and say congratulations (or if she is still in labour ring to see how she is going). If she decides to continue with being a Bridesmaid or Best Man then you make it as comfortable for her as possible (a seat to sit on etc etc). It is up to her to decide whether she is up to it or not and unfortunately she may not be able to decide that until the day of or the week of the wedding. Pregnancy is a funny thing- one day you can feel great and the next you feel blah.
I think given that she has a baby on the way you can forgive her not wanting to fly across country for or contributing to your bachelorette. I mean babys cost a bundle and her priorities should be towards her family first. I think you are being a little selfish and ungrateful. As for picking up your dress- OMG is she your personal assistant or your friend? Are you incapable of picking up your own dress?
So she helped her family with some wedding planning and you think she should help you instead of her own family? Sorry but that is a little entitled don’t you think?
You don’t need someone to be there 100%- you want someone to be there 100%. A lot of people get married everyday without having a bridal party so please I think a little perspective is needed here.
Stop using her pregnancy as an excuse to kick her out of the wedding- I think that is the worst thing about this post.
Post # 12
Okay, I will give it to you straight:
1. Pregnancy trumps wedding. I am sorry; that’s the way it is.
2. But the other end of it is that if she’s going to be 9 months pregnant when you get married, the delivery itself is not the only issue–she might not be able to wear the dress, she might not be able to wear high-heels, she might not be able to do all the standing at the altar etc. etc.
3. Existing travel plans, like having a trip on the books for Hawaii, trumps helping your friend shop for a wedding dress. Again, I am sorry; that’s the way it is.
4. BMs do not have to attend bach. parties. Especially if they require extensive travel and/or expenses.
5. 2003 is a long time ago. If you can’t forgive her, then maybe you should reconsider the whole friendship.
6. She may have been more apt to help her cousins because she’s closer to them than she is to you (they are family) OR because she knows that YOU have TWO MOHs and her cousins might have only had her.
7. There’s no nice way to say “I’m demoting you from being my Maid/Matron of Honor.”
What you can do, however, is as a PP suggested and tactfully frame it as a legitimate concern over her due-date. Tell her that you love her and really want her to be part of your day, but you don’t want the stress of your wedding to overwhelm her. And then release her of the responsibilities of being a MOH/BM.
Post # 13
Oh geez… OP, you have been on the bee long enOugh to know that you are going to get slammed for this post (yes, I went back to look if you were a newbee)! PPs have pretty much covered all the points I wanted to make, but I just wanted to note that if you want to continue being friends with this girl (and not come across as entitled), do not bring up any points that you have mentioned above other than your concern for her well being as a none month preggers Bridesmaid or Best Man. Let her know that you are really worried about the stress of being so pregnant and a Maid/Matron of Honor, and that while you would still love for her to stand up for you if it worid with her pregnancy, you tink it would be better to have X take on the Maid/Matron of Honor responsibilities to relieve some of the stress and let her focus on planning for her baby. And puhlease let her have a Bridesmaid or Best Man dress that will work for someone 9 months preggers or that just gave birth, even if it doesn’t match the others!
Post # 14
I can’t believe you got your other maid of honour to beg the people who weren’t going to your bachelorette party so they were made to feel obliged to pay for something that you and your attendees should have been paying for! I would be mortified if my maid of honour did that. If I can’t afford to go on a trip I don’t go, expecting other people to pay for something that is an unnecessary added expense to them on top of what they are already going to have to fork out on travel expenses of their own to attend your wedding and gifts for your wedding is just awful on your part. Yes you probably bought them a wedding gift yourself for their weddings or abirthday gift for their birthday but they probably did the same for you on special occasions in your life and I’m sure they didn’t expect you to pay for their parties or weekends away or whatever.
Post # 15
If you have been holding a grudge against this person for nine years over something that happened at a bachelorette party (not yours, even) then why did you put her in your bridal party?
She is not obligated to donate to your “travel fund” (nor is anyone else, and your entitlement there is pretty gross) nor is she required to do your flowers or take on anything else 100%. Yes, it’s likey that you’ll need help with your wedding, but I wish that you could be happy for your friend and her new baby rather than being upset that her pregnancy is preventing her from dedicating herself to your wedding.
You clearly do not like her, and I think that it would be really terrible of you to use the pregnancy as an excuse instead of being up front about why you don’t want her as an Maid/Matron of Honor.
Post # 16
- Wedding: May 2013 - Kempinski San Lawrenz, Gozo
hun, if she’s having a baby, her priority is the baby, not your wedding. The wedding is your day (and your FI’s of course), but not anyone else’s. Her full attention needs to be on her and the baby’s health.
I agree with what PPs said, just ask her if she’s still interested in being part of the wedding because YOU UNDERSTAND there are more important things in her life, that she may not feel well enough to help with the wedding, and that you don’t want her to feel bad for being fully available.
Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t expect bridesmaids to contribute AT ALL to the planning phase. It’s MY wedding, and I’m the one that chose to have it, and with that comes the repsonsibility of planning the whole thing. Anything our bridesmaids do to help is purely at their own will, and I’m ever so grateful. I just expect them to help me on the day.