(Closed) Public Assistance/EBT/Section 8..thoughts spinoff

posted 6 years ago in Legal
Post # 3
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: December 2004

It makes me sick.  When my husband gets paid $600 is taken out of his paycheck for taxes before he even sees it!  If people who could work would than people who do work wouldn’t be footing the bill.

Post # 5
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: December 2011

I think in theory they are a wonderful thing, but anecdotally, I too have seen lots of people who seem like they could have done without it, as in, mom and her kids came through the line and used EBT to buy HoneyBuns and DingDongs, then dad or the SO came through the line behind them, pulled out a WAD of $100 bills to buy beer then they drove off in their pimped out escalade. There is a line between hand outs and a hand up when someone needs it and I’m not sure the best way to fix the broken system to make sure those who need it get it. 

ETA: I LOVE the WIC program, I think it is wonderful that it provides nuritionally sound food and things that are good for the kids and families, but I think EBT needs to come with some nutrition/cooking classes because when you are raised on ramen and zebra cakes, you raise you kids on ramen and zebra cakes and they are cheaper. But there are lots of ways to cook and buy nutritionally sound food without busting the bank. 

Post # 6
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: February 2011

I am in favor of public assistance programs for several reasons: 

1) I think that in a civilized society it is important to help those who need it to get back on their feet, and to not let people die in the streets. Particularly because a lot of benefits are available primarily for the purpose of children, who can’t be held accountable for their asshole parents.

2) I think that the stories of abuse are widely exaggerated. Everyone who knows someone abusing the system has that story they love to pull out and tell everyone who will listen. But there are 10 people (or more) who don’t abuse the system and no one thinks twice about and no one feels the need to tell stories about. Because “oh yea she came through the food stamp line with 2 kids and bought milk, cheese, and chicken breasts” is a really crappy story. 

3) I think that this is faaaaar from the biggest money-suck we have in goverment. Corporate welfare costs many multiple times personal welfare in this country, and the abuse there is startling. It would take thousands of food stamp abusers to match one crooked company. I think efforts need to be focused there first. 

4) I think drug tests would be more expensive to administer than the cost savings from administering them. If someone proves me wrong then I have no issue with them. 

5) I do agree that if someone is caught abusing the system there should be big consequences. They ruin it for the people who really need it.

Post # 10
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: February 2011

@MississippiQueen:  Yea that would drive me crazy to see. I have no respect for people who abuse the system. If you can work, you should. I wish we could figure out a way to crack down on abuse without raising the cost of administration beyond a level that would make it worth it.

Post # 11
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Newbee
  • Wedding: February 2012

I agree! I know several people that get assistance, that do not need it!! I fully support drug testing for those receiving tax payer dollars. Not to start a political war, but before Obama recipients had to work or attend jobs seminars ect. to receive benefits. I think that we will always have those that try to abuse the system, but it were more difficult to get benefits, as well as more stringent procedures to ensure that those receiving benefits actually need them.

Post # 12
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2013

@MrsMcMahan:  Drug testing is a complete waste of time and costs the taxpayers considerably more money than it saves. Politicans push for it because it helps demonize people who are of a lower socioeconomic class, even though they know how completely ineffective it is. 

It’s also a violation of your fourth amendment constitutional right against unreasonable search and seizure.

Post # 13
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2010

@MrsMcMahan:  That is incorrect.  “Before Obama…”  Are you referencing the political attack ad about Welfare to Work?  Anyhow, not only is that an unfactual attack ad, assistance is largely is mandated by states.  My state has strict rules for public assistance.

Post # 14
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: December 2011

@Neetch:  I got drug tested to check grocieres, I think people can suck it up if they want goverment handouts, plus if there is nothing to hide, why would they object to the test? 

Post # 15
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2013

@chasesgirl:  It has nothing to do with having nothing to hide. Also, you work for a private business, which is clearly completely different than the federal government. A private business can do a lot of things to you that the government can’t.

It isn’t about anyone objecting to the test — the test is unconstitutional, one, and two, IT COSTS MORE MONEY TO ADMINISTER THAN IT SAVES. It’s a complete time waste and money suck. 

It’s one of the things politicans bring up to detract from the fact that they are screwing you over royally in every other conceivable way. You will now blame poor people for your problems, because they’re all abusing the system, nevermind that those people (abusers) are the exception, not the norm AND nevermind that welfare spending is among the least of our problems. But now you have someone to blame, so you’re happy, right?

Post # 16
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2010

@CorgiTales:  I agree!

Also, there are many other types of “Assistance” including student loans, mortgages…

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