(Closed) Puppy blues, long. Am I normal? Is the puppy normal? Feeling defeated.

posted 4 years ago in Pets
Post # 2
2863 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: June 2014

Totally normal. Puppies are like having newborns- you have no idea what you are doing and although you wanted them and planned for them you’ll have moments where you just think ” whst the fuck did I do?!” You’ll learn in time and it gets easier plus they don’t stay puppies forever. It’s hard and anyone who says different is a dirty liar lol. Don’t be too hard on yourself, it’s a new experience and it takes time to figure it all out. 

Post # 3
1671 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2013

Yes! Puppies are awful! A year old is the worst time in my opinion. They’re fully grown and strong, but clumsy and with hooligan puppy brains. I have a 2 year old lab. When she was 4-6 months old, she would yank and pull and strain on the leash… She is so strong! Sometimes I would get home from the walk and sit and cry. 🙁 She weighs 83lbs now and I’m only 115.

We did puppy school. Walk her 1hr or more every single day, even if it’s -20. We play with her and make her learn more and more tricks. Mine is a high energy breed and was totally crazy. These things definitely help though.

But! She’s still improving! Every six months or so, I can notice a different, calmer, more loving dog. 

I expected it to be awful, and tried to sell Darling Husband on adopting a dog that was already past the insanity of being a puppy. No dice. But I always expected her to grow out of it. And she is! What you’re feeling is normal. Or at least, not uncommon. It’s going to be ok!

Post # 4
537 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2014

Chillax!! Like mixtapehearts said puppies are newborn kids, just smarter and learn faster. 

it broke my heart leaving dog to cry for me at night but it’s really not bad. They learn very quickly if you don’t respond that it gets them nowhere. Now my dog goes to his bed hours before I do! Just wanders off haha!

the great thing about young pups is that whilst they are clueless and innocent like kids they mature and learn so much in such a short time. You’ll be past whining and house training in just a few weeks. Compare that to a human baby.

As for teething my dog never chewed anything he shouldnt have, but i gave him giant butchers bones to work out his frustrations on. Your pup probably isn’t teething yet though if he’s only just come home with you. He’s mouthing. Puppies explore the world with their mouths and sadly their razor teeth! A firm NO Is all that I found works and immediately disengaging with them. 

Post # 5
6009 posts
Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: May 2014

Deejayelle:  Puppies are awful! I have 2 LOL! And my last one (whom my ex kept) was the worst. I HIGHLY recommend getting the book Puppies for Dummies. It will give you tips and show you how to start training him. Training will help! The book also explains their changes as they grow older. For ex: there was something about your dog will be doing pretty well, and then when he gets to a certain age he’ll start testing the limits again. Kinda like a kid in his terrible 2s!

Post # 6
8604 posts
Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: August 2012

I would highly, highly recommend a puppy class. Take him by yourself a few times too. Also, I think dogs can tell when you’re upset, so he could be reacting to that as well.

Even at 8 weeks he can go for a walk around a block or two. Avoid any places that have a lot of dog traffic obviously, but a sidewalk should be fine.

I don’t understand why having the puppy would change how much you see your SO though? Why can’t you eat dinner or sleep together..?

Post # 7
340 posts
Helper bee

What you’re going through is normal.  Lots of advice coming…

We have 2 English Staffies (yep, we were silly enough to get 2 at the same time!) that are now 18 months old.  I highly recommend puppy school – to train, to ask questions, to meet others in your situation and very importantly to socialise your puppy (helps to prevent anxiety/aggression with other dogs).

I was told when we first got them, that puppies need to pee every 2 hours.  

Ours did, and still do, chew everything – our solution is lots of chew toys and raw-hide bones.  I used to have to wear old trackies (sweats I think you folks in USA call them) when I was with them because they were ruining the bottom of my clothes.  

When you give your pup a demand, such as “sit”, only say it once – if he doesn’t obey, make him sit (push his rear down), then praise him.  Otherwise he’ll think that he doesn’t need to listen to you until the 20th time.  Consistency is key – always praise good behaviour and ignore or verbally tell-off bad behaviour.  Sometimes I find myself getting halfway through praise to then switch to telling-off, then going straight back to praise!

Like kids, puppies will always push the boundaries and need very regular reminders!  One of our pups in particular has been regularly trying to rise above me in the pecking order – refusing to do what I tell her.  If, after a big glare and raised growly voice, she still defies me, I roll her onto her back and make her stay there until she submits (relaxes).  It usally only takes a few seconds.

I hope all this helps you.  It won’t last forever – ours magically got a lot better (in terms of stopping being crazy tornadoes) almost overnight around 12 months.

Post # 8
851 posts
Busy bee

1. Yes this is Normal: Puppies have to be cute because otherwise they wouldn’t survive puppyhood. If you did your research on malamutes (which I assume you did because I know how long you’ve been waiting for this puppy.) You know they are notoriously stubborn and independent. They aren’t born with an inherent need to please you like labs and other retrievers. The biting and howling will all subside and if you put in the work — in a couple years you’ll have an awesome dog.

2. Biting: Puppies cannot be aggressive. Malamutes have an extrordinarily high prey drive and so any move you make is exciting (even more so than other puppies.) Kikopup is a youtube dog trainer and she has a great video on making your movements less exciting, which is great for a puppy with high prey drive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c77–cCHPyU

At 9 weeks old, I hate to break it to you — but they’re not teething yet. Nip the mouthing in the bud NOW. If you’re sitting with him, shove an appropriate toy in his mouth to replace your hand, shirt, etc. If you’re playing with him on the floor, and he’s getting too rough, Yelp. SCREAM a yip. It should be loud enough to startle him, and stand up. Many puppies will continue to bite at pant legs, and if that happens, leave the room. Show him exciting things leave the room if he plays inappropriately. Pushing him away is going to make him think it’s a game, and he’s not going to learn, but escalate.

3. Alpha Theory Has Been Widely Debunked

You and your SO are both the alphas. The people who invented alpha theory have come out and said that it was a horrible idea. You’re bigger, stronger, faster — and you control where they go, what they do, and when/what they eat. Even with northern breeds, as long as your firm and consistent with your training, they’ll bond with you.

4. Go to Puppy School

Even if your SO had a dog before, it is often a LONG time in between puppies and it’s amazing the advances that have come with dog training in the past 10 years. Most decent facilities will also have puppy play time so they get to socialize and that will do MIRACLES for bite inhibition. Dogs are much better at training each other that — ow, that hurts — than you are. Like you said, it’ll also go a long way for teaching you how to handle training so that you’re confident when you’re alone. They’ll also teach ‘leave it’ which will help with all the tasty distractions outside. Many puppy classes start before all shots are done as well, so don’t wait until puppy shots are done to start looking for a class.

He is old enough to play with the cavalier, assuming that you trust the dog’s owners to have their dog vaccinated. Keep in mind though that not all dogs are tolerant of puppies. I have one dog that is great and gentle with puppies and a good teacher and one who will not tolerate and is actually dangerous around puppies. 

Post # 9
480 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

This is normal. Pup will keep being a land shark for another 3 or 4 months… It gets worse when their jaws are stronger, but then better when their adult teeth come in.

Honestly, puppies are a lot of work until about 8 months, and then quite a bit of work for another year. You need to be consistent and always on top of your training. Additionally, malamutes are a hard breed – they are smart, which means that they can be very destructive when they are bored.  They are also very high energy, so the ages of 6 months to 2 years will need to involve a loooooot of walks!! 

Post # 10
480 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

Also! 8-12 weeks is the golden window for socialization. Malamutes are known for being a bit shy and aloof, which can lead to some defensiveness later in life.  That’s why puppy class is so good – getting to know other dogs, including how to play properly, and meeting other people!

Post # 11
451 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: August 2014

Read “My Smart Puppy” and “Good Owners, Great Dogs,” both by Brian Kilcommons and Sarah Wilson. They were required reading back when we used to raise puppies for Guiding Eyes for the Blind, and they are fantastic resources.

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