Post # 1
Hi hive! I’m hoping somebody might be able to offer advice I haven’t found elsewhere. Or, venting might make me feel better.
We have had our puppy Leroy for about 4 weeks now. He’s 12 weeks old. We are using the crate training method, and have been careful not to give him too much room to use the bathroom in one end and sleep in the other. THIS IS NOT WORKING. Instead what’s happening is he pees AND poops in his crate, while I am at work and it’s only for 4 hours because I come home at lunch to let him out. This is getting really gross because he lays in it and then I have to clean both him and the crate on my lunch hour.
We take him out all of the time when we’re home. He mostly goes outside. He hasn’t started telling us he needs to go out, we just have been reading some signs.
We take him out a lot before we leave for work and he usually has a couple of big pees before we leave. Also, we are limiting his water intake so we know when he’s had a drink and when he’s relieved himself.
I am just getting very frustrated. Cleaning up after him every day like this is really hard. My hands are dry from all the cleaner.
Post # 3
Hmmm….that is very strange behavior. Have you tried looking up breed specific tips?
Post # 4
Young puppies pee and poop constantly (and your is still young). We actually thought our last one was ‘broken’ and went to see the vet about it because he went SO OFTEN. The vet just laughed. He will grow out of it, promise! 4 hours is just too long for a puppy to go without going potty. Is there any way you can hire a pet sitter to come into your house once or twice while at work to let him out? You won’t need to do it for very long. You can talk to your vet about it, but I doubt there’s any problem with his health. I remember that we felt CONSTANTLY FRUSTRATED trying to housebreak the pup entirely, because it’s damn hard! But it was over soon enough and now we have a wonderful adult dog. That doesn’t mean I’d ever get a puppy again, haha.
Post # 5
I agree with veganglam. He’s just too young to hold it for 4 hours. When my puppy was 12 weeks the longest he could go was 2.5-3 hours. Is there any way you can decrease the amount of time he is crated? It won’t be for very long because your puppy will soon be able to hold it longer. You can gradually increase the time week by week.
Post # 6
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4 months is pretty young still and they don’t have that great of control yet. Can you guys stagger your work schedules temporarily so he’s left alone a little less? It won’t be that long and giving him more opportunities to go to the bathroom outside will only benefit you.
Also does he poop before you leave for work? Getting him to do that would be a big help, I’m sure!
Post # 7
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Honestly, he probably just doesn’t have enough control of his bladder right now to be able to hold it. I’m sure if you give it some time he’ll get better about it.
Post # 8
Also maybe feeding him earlier so he has time to completely process his breakfast might help.
Post # 9
As everyone before me said, your puppy is just too young to hold it for that long. Have you thought about taking your puppy to a daycare. At daycare (if you find a good one) they will teach your puppy basic manners and socialization. If that isn’t an option for you, what about hiring a dog walker/sitter to come to your house every couple of hours to let your puppy out.
Post # 10
he’s still pretty young. it’s just a matter of 4 hours still being too long a period of time. i definitely went through this with buddy our second pup… it only took a month for him to get trained, but during that month when i had to leave for a few hours at a time, there would most certaintly be an accident.
like some of the other bees said you can time his eating/drinking, but all you can do is wait ’til he get a lil bit older and make sure you continue to crate-train him.
Post # 11
I agree with pps. I think the general rule is that puppies can hold their bladders one hour for every month they are old. So a 3 month puppy can’t be expected to go more than 3 hours without a potty break. In another month or two, Leroy will probably be fine being in a crate for 4 hours. Until then, can you have a neighbor or friend come over and walk him while you’re gone? It would just be for the next couple months, so even if you had to pay someone, it would probably be worth it.
Post # 12
Agree with the other posters. 3 months is too young to crate train for 4 hours at a time and also because you are not in the house.
Note that you may have problems crate training your puppy moving forward, because he has already gotten used to eliminating in a confined space (his crate) and lying down in it. So the logic behind the crate training (not eliminating in his own den) may no longer apply to your dog anymore because he is already used to a soiled den.
When we got my dog last year, we were out of the house up to 5 hours at a time and instead of crate training, we confined him to his room (tiled floors 6 ft x 6 ft) with his bed in one corner and a puppy pad in the opposite corner. The puppy pad attracted him to pee there and he never once soild his bed. As he got older and could hold his pee longer, we noticed there were fewer and fewer spots on the puppy pads when we got home, and then we just stopped using them. Maybe you can try that, so that your dog isn’t lying in his own mess.
It takes a while to house break a dog. So don’t give up!
Post # 13
Thank you all for your feedback! It seems that 4 hours might be too long, but if that’s true, then how come he holds it for 7-8 hours at night?? Ugh.
I will look into having someone come by to let him out though. FI’s parents might be willing!
Post # 14
@Ottawa–he probably isn’t awake at night, right? And also, he might get antsy/scared/lonely when you guys leave for the day and put him in his crate while he’s still awake, which makes it harder for him to hold it in. In any event, good luck, and I’m sure you’ll be able to get him fully trained in no time with some effort.
Post # 15
Maybe he is lonely? It didn’t even occur to me that four hours would be too long (as is clear from my first response), but I am sure everyone is right. When my dog was a puppy I had someone come by once a day to let him out and my roommates let him out as well. Try it and see if that helps!
Post # 16
@veganglam – That’s true! I guess I just figured he probably slept most of the day, but maybe not. Thanks for the kind words! Sorry if I sound abrasive, I’m just frustrated with all of the poop clean up… he must be sick of baths by now! Lol.