(Closed) Purebred animals….why?

posted 5 years ago in Pets
Post # 181
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MrsCallalily:  Seriously. You said it. You do not understand something.

Dogs are not bred for ‘cute’. They are bred for purpose, skill and temperament. Why is that so hard to understand? Greyhounds run, Huskies are sled dogs,collies heard, terriers are mousers, German Shepards make excellent police dogs, Beagles are phenomenal bomb sniffers, most importantly ASSISTACE DOGS FOR THE DISABLED ARE PUREBREDS! GREYHOUNDS, GOLDENS AND LABRADORS. Even the Obamas had to get a purebred dog –  a Portugese Water Spaniel, because he has a BREED SPECIFIC TRAIT of hypoallergenic fur, so that he does not bother Malia’s allergy to dogs. Malia Obama cannot have a mongrel dog even if she wanted one.

The wild type (techinical term in genetics) of dogs, what Canine familiaris is like with no special breeding, most closely resembles Caanan dogs. While a good dog, would not be appropriate as assistance, police, bomb squad, bird/fox/rat/hare hunting, search and rescue(what the giant breeds are for) and frankly would die from cold exposure if you tried to make them sled dogs. 

A mutt rescue is clearly what fits your lifestyle. I have met hundreds of dogs who live the life they were bred for. Herding and hunting dogs are still in demand. You must live under a rock in the dog owner world to know nothing of other people’s needs for a pet. 

Most of the ‘purebred health problems exist in only a few breeds in America. (there are 250+ dog breeds in the world). European dogs have fewer problems as their bloodlines were not limited in the 19th century. Only American dalmations have blindness problems, not European. Giant breeds have hip problems and they are WORSE in mutt/mongrels, than in properly bred dogs and is actually made worse by bad food. 

I am not an expert in Shiz tu’s (I can’t even spell it!), I refuse to pretend that I am. I think they are terriers, I think they hunt rodents. The show trim is only for show. Pet dogs get clipped haircuts. The only two I have met were perfectly healthy dogs. They should not run a lot or in high heat. No dog is suitable for all situations. That I what this whole post is trying to explain to you.

It is the goal of a true dog breeder to improve the health of their dogs’ lines. You are only describing sh*tty breeders, who’s damage to the dogs makes vaild breeders work more valuable to the health of specialised dogs. 

Post # 182
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Drizzle:  Your darling girl is gorgous! Thank you for posting her picture!

Post # 183
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: December 2016

My parents have always had purebred poodles.  Mainly because we tried adopting and ended up with a biter.  They exactly what kind of temperment to expect and and most important: hypo-allergenic!  With six allergic people in a house they wanted to make sure they knew what they were getting for health reasons.

Post # 184
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You insulted people on the internet. You went out of your way to insult us as animal abusers instead of googling the AKC. …and you expected what as a reply?

The reply you garnered was because your “question” was worded as a passive aggressive insult to our ethics; not as a genuine question looking for information. We defended our position. We corrected your huge flaw in basic dog owner knowledge.  

You even personally addressed me, playing the victim again. When you did finally realise the flaw in your argument, instead of appologizing properly for your poor judgement and deliberate attacks on our and my personal character, you thank the other people for not ‘jumping on you’ and again passive agressively slightling the people who corrected you.

Am I supposed to be impressed with you? 

Grow up. Act like an adult. Appologize properly when you screw up and or insult people.

An appology has four parts: 1) I was wrong. 2) I am sorry. 3) How do I make it better (if possible)? 4) No excuse, slight, blame or minimizing of role or responsibility in the wrong doing in any way.

I appologize all the time for my screw ups. It is not that hard. The world has yet to explode.

Post # 185
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Busy bee

I think it’s an unethical or uneducated decision. People just don’t care about all animals, or they pretend their decision has nothing to do with the huge numbers of animals (mixed and breeds) who suffer in shelters and/or are euthanized. It’s a very hedonistic choice.

I’ll happily exclude “working” dogs from this, provided there is some legitimate reason behind the choice. Remember that most “pure” breeds didn’t exist naturally and were only “created” in the last few hundred years.

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Post # 186
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Bumble bee

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Nontra: what horrible blanket statements.  the issue is with those humans that neglect or give up their dogs, not with those thah get and love their pure breeds. The focus should be on solving the issue of why there are so many dogs in shelters, not of responsible breeding. 

Post # 187
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2012

I just love the way rescue-only people have an “I’m better than everyone because I only get a rescue dog” attitude. You don’t know what reason someone has for choosing their pet, and frankly, it’s no one else’s business. That’s like asking someone why had their own children instead of adopting one of the hundreds of thousands of kids in foster care? Responsible breeders aren’t the problem, stupid people are the problem. There are always going to be backyard breeders, because people are stupid and buy pets on a whim instead of researching what it means to be a pet owner.  Almost always, anyone wanting a specific breed has a legtimate reason why and they research accordingly. Anyone who opts for a backyard breeder or petstore puppy hasn’t done their research, and shouldn’t be a pet owner regardless. 

We personally have one of each.

Our older dog is a pure English Lab, from a very well known and reputable breeder. We went this route specifically because temperment was very important to us. It’s not as simple as saying “we want a lab”, there are so many variations of each kind of breed. English Labs are known for their stocky bodies, big block heads, and most importantly…their calm demeanor and good temperment. American Labs are more lean, with pointed noses, and tend to be a lot more high strung. We did a lot of research and talked with MANY breeders before deciding on the one we went with. We knew we wanted a English Lab with good breeding, and we wanted to raise her from a puppy. We’ve had 11 amazing years with that dog so far and she is the best. 

Almost 2 years ago we rescued a dog, not planned, but we just couldn’t let her go back to the house she came from. While she’s a full (American) lab, she definitely isn’t from good breeding. She’s incredibly sweet and snuggly and we love her, but it took quite some time to break her of the growling and raising her hair when she felt our other dog was incroaching on her bone/food/toy. 

Would we get a rescue again? Probably not. Not being 100% confident in her temperment gives me a bit of anxiety. I’ve never for one second in the 11 years we’ve had our English Lab worried that she couldn’t be trusted around adults, children, etc. She loves everyone and is soooo good with kids. Kids can lay all over her, snuggle her, walk her around, basically do anything and she just lays there wagging her tail. If she gets tired, she goes upstairs and puts herself to bed. She’s never so much as blinked in the direction of a child, let alone growl or be aggressive. I can say with 100% confidence that I fully trust her around kids because of her temperment and the fact we worked with her from day 1 as a puppy (taking her toys away, messing with her tail/ears, sticking our hand in her food bowl while eating, etc).

I definitely watch our rescue like a hawk when we have kids in the house. We’ve worked really hard with her in the time we have her, and while I feel confident doing some of the same training techniques, I don’t feel relaxed about letting kids run free around the house with her here. She’s not dont anything, but because she lived her first 6 years basically chained to a tree or running free – there’s always an unpredicable chance.

Post # 188
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: November 2014

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MrsCallalily:  I’m a proud mommy of a gorgeous rescue mutt, but getting her settled into my home was a lot of work.  Because of her terrible childhood, she had a lot of issues.  We needed to do extensive training, etc.  I highly doubt I would have been able to handle it if this were my first time as a dog owner.  

When you buy from a reputable breeder, you know what you’re getting.  I see nothing wrong with wanting a certain type of dog with a certain type of disposition. 

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