Post # 1
We have an hourly employee who used to be under me but is now under my boss. This person works in our little area, away from our boss, so she has no idea what he does or rather what he doesn’t do. I am in the middle of the time keeping process and on the time sheets he says he worked all day and didn’t note where he was late. He is claiming he worked all day, which he did not. I questioned the time sheet for the second time because he fills it out wrong. My boss snapped at me, “Well he did work all day!!!!!”
I know he didn’t and my coworker knows he didn’t. I could write the times he came in late/early like I used to on a calendar when I was his boss but I just don’t feel it’s my responsibilty but I don’t think it’s right that he’s claiming more hours.
Let it go or what? While my boss is becoming PO’d that I’ve brought this up twice now (he just reprinted his time sheet instead of fixing it), well she gets mad at you whenever you point out what she did incorrectly, I could get in so much more trouble for signing off. And for me, even if I couldn’t get in trouble, it’s not right.
Post # 3
Is there someone higher up than your boss you could talk to about this? What’s going on is hella unethical.
Post # 4
I am going throught the exact same thing with someone at my office. The only difference is she was never under me but we have the same boss. She comes in 20 minutes late everyday then takes over an hour for lunch and she is only supposed to be getting 30 minutes. I saw her time sheet for last month and she did not put down a single time she was late or her long lunches. I mentioned it to our boss and he said he would try to pay closer attention to it but it has been going on for about 4 months now and nothing is happening!
Post # 5
Her boss kisses her ass so she gets away with a lot of BS that shouldn’t be going on.
Post # 6
You could get in trouble for signing off on this when you know its wrong? Who would you be in trouble with– your boss or higher up than her?
If it’s higher up than her, I’d bring it up to her one more time and say something like, “I know I’ve already brought this up to you but I am still having an issue. Do you have a second to chat about this? I feel that its very important.” If she doesn’t take the time to speak with you, then can you just let her know you don’t feel comfortable signing off on it until you two can talk about it and come to a conclusion? I am not familiar with your work environment so I don’t know if that would be acceptable or not. Otherwise you could speak with her higher-ups, but you don’t really want to get your boss in trouble, even though she may deserve it a little.
I definitely would not be signing it until I was comfortable with the situation– you need your signature to be trusted.
Post # 7
I wouldn’t sign it if I knew it to be untrue. That is just asking to get yourself in trouble later.
I’d try talking to your boss again. If she is still unreceptive, move on to her boss, an so on. It is very unethical what is being done and you shouldn’t be made to feel like you have to support it.
Post # 8
Do you have an HR person you can talk to about this? You’re right – it’s unethical. Also, not to scare you too much, but you could get in trouble for this. It could be considered falsification of records, and could be something you could get written up or terminated for (can you tell I work in HR?). Maybe when your boss is calmer, explain to her that you cannot in good conscience sign off on something you know is untrue. Also, get your HR dept involved and document everything (emails instead of phonecalls, etc). Hopefully, that will correct the situation. If it doesn’t, though, you will have a “paper trail” of how you attempted to resolve it so that you won’t get in trouble if/when your boss decides to take the issue seriously.
Post # 9
Wow, this is very unethical. Definitely go higher up and explain the situation you’re in. I agree, emailing is a good idea.
Post # 10
I would go higher up and tell them.
Post # 11
Well I’m confused. You sign off on the time sheets but your boss approves them? That doesn’t seem to make sense. The only thing I can think is maybe even when he is late he is working or something. We have an hourly employee who gets paid 8 hours for days when she is here only for 3 because she will be running errands for the boss. We don’t see her and for all we know she could just be playing hooky but the boss says he gives her tasks like picking up drycleaning or washing his car.
Post # 12
i’D LOOK FOR A NEW job-sorry my computer is dying!
Post # 13
Bad news bears. I’d go to HR.
Post # 14
It could be considered falsification of records, and could be something you could get written up or terminated for (can you tell I work in HR?).
That is exactly my concern.
Yes I am looking for a job. This is only 1 of many issues. As for talking to her, well she runs the whole show and she is just 4 faced lately saying she never said things and it’s just a big mess.
Smith2be- She signs off on them as the supervisor, she enters him and I approve it. He has in the past been let go early to run errands but 99.9% of the time I am in the know about them so maybe that is the case and I just was not around.
Post # 15
Just an update to let you all know that she changed it afterall.