Post # 31
Watch the doc. There are interviews not only from victims but family members of victims and former employees, some of which admitted to helping in covering up his crimes. Sorry, there was just too much documented stuff to say he’s anything but guilty.
As far as waiting years to come forward…..all the women who accused Cosby sat on that info for DECADES…even when a young woman openly accused him of the exact same stuff 10+ years ago and not one of these current accusers said a thing! Why? Because Cosby’s star power hadn’t dimmed yet…..just like R Kelly.
Post # 32
These stories aren’t new, things didn’t just come up. It now just come up because he has run out of money, contacts, resources to protect himself. Money will only go so far and when the money runs out, he’s exposed.
Post # 33
“With so many rape cases, abuse cases over the years being proven as false statements and lies”
That’s just statistically not true. Everyone should have due process, but the fact of the matter is false reporting is HIGHLY uncommon, while failing to report due to fear and shame are incredibly high.
Many people also fail to report, or don’t report right away because it’s incredibly difficult to prove – especially when you only have single case. Then it’s just he said, she said – and with someone like R.Kelly he’s going to be speaking with millions of dollars and powerful lawyers as well. The reason there are often waves of women coming out at once is because they finally feel they have a chance at being heard. Because then it’s not just one girl against her abuser and his powerful lawyers that will publicly tear her apart.
R. Kelly has also already been convicted of similar charges and has settled many more out of court (ie he knew he would be found guilty if they went to court so he payed them off to keep them quiet).
He still deserves due process like anyone else, but it’s not like this just came out of nowhere.
Post # 34
OP, people here are giving you legitimate facts and figures about rape, victim reporting, R. Kelly’s past, and you’re still 50/50. You’re still hemming and hawing about “those few women who said…” THAT is the problem–people refuse to alter their erroneous perspectives in light of actual facts.
Post # 35
im not saying there are more false accusations then true ones, cause it does only make up less then 10%, but they are out there, and they typically are the cases that involve lots of money or people who come from money.
He deserves his day in court, more then likely will be thrown in jail. But i guess the question now is, how much if any time will he serve (possible probation??…) I think thats where the real uproar will occur if they dont give him a long sentence.
Post # 36
“The aggressiveness and anger he showed in this interview did him no favors IMO.”
Welllllllll you know, maybe he thought reacting that way to an interview on national television will make him a Supreme Court justice.
Post # 37
I actually was just listening to Stephen Colbert’s take on the interview and he said R. Kelly did one thing wrong: he didn’t mention how much he liked beer.
Post # 38
Something new I just heard about the subsequent interview with his “girlfriends:” apparently R. Kelly was not supposed to be in the room during this interview but he snuck in anyway and sat behind them and would audibly cough when specific subjects would come up and they almost had to stop the interview several times.
Post # 39
Im over here today wondering how in the WORLD Tristan Thompson already is out with some new girl. What is going on in the head of a woman who after watching a man publicly cheat the DAY BEFORE his girlfriend goes into labor, then cheats again while trying to fix things, is someone that ANYONE should want to be dating.
Like what?!! How is he getting girls right now?! Gross and so sad. Feel for woman who think so little of themselves that they see him as an option lol.
Post # 40
He should have been in jail 30 years ago. I believe the girls and the women and he’s only now really being held to task that his celebrity has faded (younger generations weren’t around during the Bump N Grind hits era so they don’t have the same affinity that people had when he first faced charges). The social response to any woman or girl who spoke out against him during that time was far from kind, and it still isn’t, so I find it hard to believe they have any ulterior motive to lie on this man. The court of public opinion has always blamed the girls for being “too fast” or blamed the parents for not supervising their children – even in light of incontervertible evidence – as though either of those things absolves a grown man from crime and misconduct.
Post # 41
Anyone crying due process at this point is a rape apologist. Iʻll just leave it there.
Post # 42
I also just read that. If that doesn’t scream that these girls are being abused I don’t know what does.llevinso :
Post # 43
The good news is that he is back in jail until he can come up with the funds to pay off the $161K in child support payments he owes.
Post # 44
- Wedding: October 2016 - Wedgewood Las Vegas
Even people who have a huge mountain of damning evidence against them here in the US have the right to due process. It has nothing to do with being a ‘rape apologist’. He should have to go through the humiliation of a public trial, by a jury of his peers so that he can receive his due sentencing.
For what it’s worth, I think this guy is a real piece of work and guilty as hell.
Post # 45
- Wedding: May 2016 - Sussex, UK
I watched the BBC doc a year ago and it focused more on Aaliyah and covered most of what was shown in Surviving R Kelly. Also didn’t everyone know about the 2002 indictment? I don’t understand why people are only just up in arms about it now.
His upbringing will likely be used as a mitigation but he HAS to get prison time for this.
He’s not a paedophile as far as we know though is he? I didn’t think the girls were prepubescent.