Post # 1
I am about to propose to my girlfriend and as little as I know about jewlery and judging from the jewelery she already has, she very much likes yellow gold vintage. I found one that I really liked at a jewelry store, which is 200 years old according to the jeweler, however the diamond is very faded as you can see in the pictures. My question is if it would be possible to recut/repolish the stone to make it somewhat shiny again?
Thank you so very much for your help, I really appreciate it!! 🙂
Post # 2
I know I personally would be ecstatic to receive a ring like this. You can get it polished, but as to recutting or something more drastic, I’d be cautious. You don’t want to do something irreversible without knowing it’s what she wants. We don’t know her and you do – how do you think she’d react if you got it polished, asked around a few different jewelers as to what sort of changes could be made, proposed with it as is and let her decide? Especially when you explain that it’s 200 years old! If you think she’d be good with making the choice herself and not be offended, that’s definitely the way I’d go.
Regardless, it’s a beautiful ring, and I’d get several estimates from different reputable jewelers before getting anything done beyond a basic polish.
Post # 3
Honestly, I wouldn’t re-cut it at all, and I’d be careful with cleaning/polishing if they’re removing the stone from the setting.
I love antique rings, and part of loving them is accepting that they aren’t new, shiny rings, but that they have character and history that can’t be matched.
I’d say have it lovingly cleaned, and then see what your Girlfriend wants once you propose, and also be really careful who you bring it to to do anything with!
Good luck, and congrats!
Post # 4
Just get it polished. It’s a quick, easy process that can be done without pulling the diamond out of the setting– my jeweler does it every time we stop in to look at wedding bands.
Post # 5
This would really be a question for the jeweler selling the ring to you.
Diamonds don’t fade!!! the color is lower (making it creamy/yellow/gray) and the clarity my be very lower (feathers making it look opaque). IDK your budget and the ring is lovely for what it is, but re-cuting will not change the color/opaqueness of this stone.
Edit: there is polishing a ring (what is done while your in the store, the gold is polished) and polishing a stone (must be taken out and sent to a diamond cutter with diamond polishing wheels)
Taking the ring to a jeweler to have the ring polished will take off the 200 year old patina!!
Post # 6
Check out the website price scope. I would ask them.
Post # 7
I don’t think diamonds grow milky over time, by the picture I thought it was a quartz. The ring is very unique but I’m not a fan of the stone, I’d replace that with a colored ruby or something were it mine. I think you should have it cleaned and propose as is, and let her decide about a new gem or keeping that one.
Post # 8
It is a beautiful ring!
But as a previous poster said….diamonds do not change color over time. (fade). They are a color and the color is rated on an A-Z scale starting at D as the most colorless. Do you have the stone details? It will tell you the color by D-Z. The lower on the alphabet it is the more yellow/brown color it will have.
The jeweler should also tell you a clarity. Clarity means how many “blemishes” are in the stone. Too many inclusions will make a stone cloudy and not a sparkly diamond as the light cannot pass through it. These inclusions also do not come and go over time. They are either they or they are not. Did the jeweler provide any specs on the stone? That would help.
Good Luck and Congrats!
Post # 9
If she likes old rings, and you know this is her style, then I would likely give it to her just cleaned up – let her decide if she wants to buff out the patina and scratches). If you want a bright shiny diamond, then buy a new diamond. Back 200 years ago they didn’t have the brilliant cut diamonds of today, cutting wasn’t precise, and diamonds weren’t as white and clear (I inherited a 150 year old diamond that was R-S colour. That wouldn’t sell at all today. One jewelry store wouldn’t even touch it – they were too afraid it would crack when taken out of the setting).
Another option is to buy a replica setting – several companies now have old rings that they have made copies of, so you can have the ring made in whatever gold you want (14 or 18 kt; rose, yellow or white gold). I just recently bought a new replica and LOVE it. Then you can choose the stone that you want just for her. I am guessing choosing a new stone is probably about the same cost as having an old one re-cut – and you don’t have to deal with this older cloudy one. If it’s cloudy it might be because of whisps and feathering – which can make the stone very prone to cracking.
Heres mine – as an example. From 1910-15. In rose gold
Post # 10
vega02 : Honestly I would not touch it if you don’t think that it is shiny sparkly enough to thrill her the cost of cutting you could probably get her a more modern or perhaps even another vintage stone that does sparkle. No amount of polishing will ever make that Would change the color, it is within the stone. I feel like if you have questions about whether to do the ring you probably know you’re lady more than anyone else and when you finally do give her a ring,that special ring it should be something you feel confident about. That’s just my opinion and if you decide that that’s the perfect ring and you repolish or recut it or you don’t congratulations and I’m sure she will love it cause you got it for her
Post # 11
I don’t think that is a great stone tbh! You don’t say your budget but personally I would wait until you find a better quality stone in a vintage setting. Bear in mind if you DO buy that ring that you are basically buying the setting as the stone won’t be worth much so make sure the jeweller isn’t ripping you off.
Post # 12
If that’s a diamond, then that means polishing or recutting it will not make it any more sparkly or shinier. It looks like its natural color. Diamonds will not change colors at all. I think this is an icy diamond, which means, it’s a diamond fille with impurities. Some people like it, some don’t, and it’ll definitely cost a lot cheaper than clearer/less impurities diamond. I personally like this kind of diamond as a daily accessory, it’s very fashionable, but I’d prefer clearer diamond as an engagement ring as it’ll last longer. The more impurities it has, the more fragile it is, but of course, it’s really up to you or your fiancé. If she likes unique jewelries, then this might be perfect for her, but I honestly wouldn’t recut it!
Post # 13
vega02 : this isn’t a good stone clarity so recutting wouldn’t really do much I don’t think.
Id go to pricescope forum and they’ll help you in your budget.
I love old cuts and have an antique ering so I understand where your girl is coming from but I think you can get a much nicer option.
Post # 14
Thank you so very much for your advice thus far. I’ll be checking the pricescope forum but I also think I’m having second thoughts regarding the impurity of the diamond. I want her to be able to wear it casually as well but at the same time it is something that should catch one’s eye when looking at it.
Again thanks so very much for your input, it’s very much appreciated!
Post # 15
Yeah agree with the other bees on the diamond not being the best in cut or clarity diamonds dont change over time. Please keep us in loop with how it turns out post us a pic of the new ring and congratulations on your engagement!