Post # 1
Ok, I’m not one to give input on politics or to start a thread but I guess I just wanna vent. I have one relative who I talk to (actually just spoke with her earlier today) who is really into politics. Most of the time I just don’t engage because I don’t see things in black and white like she does. I feel that some have a point while some don’t. Anyway, I was talking to her on a group chat earlier. At first, she’s started this convo out of nowhere about how CA (where I’m from) “better not ask a dime from Georgia (where’s she’s from) because the mayor of LA wants to give illegals some cash”. I don’t know where she got this info from and I don’t know it’s true or not. No one replied to her because we all know where this convo would turn to.
Then we changed the topic and started talking about how we noticed construction workers are little by little returning to work and might be rotating workdays so everyone gets to work yet not have a huge crowd of them working all at the same time. And then again she said something to the effect of “Well that’s how it should be!” I got annoyed so I replied back that she cannot compare the way they are opening things up in Georgia to those highly infected areas such as NYC and others. Basically what I’m saying is I feel that there is no one cookie cutter plan to work for every city or state. Re-opening plans should be based on infection rates and specific factors in their areas. Anyway, she got annoyed with me and hanged up because she’s not gettting her way in the conversation. I’m just so pissed off.
I just feel this thread might turn into another republican vs Democrat thing which i don’t intend to. I’m just so pissed off thatbthis person cannot see that the corona virus does not have a re-opening plan that fits all. Like some areas cannot be as speedy as Georgia into opening things up because they need to be more cautious given their own situation and it’s not because I live in a blue state! What’s so freakin hard to understand about that?!?
Post # 2
If it wasn’t clear earlier, the pandemic certainly shed light on the faults in the US education system.
Here are some links that might prove useful:
(1) During the 1918 Pandemic, cities that imposed stricter and earlier social distancing measures emerged economically stronger.
(2) California and New York provide more in taxes than they receive. The opposite holds for Georgia.
(3) We won’t know the consequences of reopening too early for several weeks.
Post # 3
I love your response about education because opinionated cousin sounds distressingly uninformed.
OP – Let your cousin know that not only does CA pay more in taxes than we request in federal funding support, CA’s economy is FIFTH in the WORLD. We, as a state, are competing on the same level as COUNTRIES. Georgia very much IS NOT. So, no need to worry about us asking Georgia for anything.
Post # 4
In LA there was a round of funding called “The Angeleno Card” which was a preloaded debit card that would help people pay rent- the amounts were like $500-1000. They were given out regardless of immigration status. I’m proud of our city for doing that. So many people applled, there wasn’t enough to go around, I’m hoping for more funding to keep it going.
Thats because LA is looking to help all the people who live here regardless of their status. In CA we do not punish people for immigrating, we do not comply with ICE rounding up people and sending them back to places they fled, many of them back to places where they were in terrible danger. Many immigrants in LA are here illegally because they would have died in the place they left. You don’t need to challenge your aunt on this, but I don’t believe anyone is “illegal” or “an alien”. We’re all humans living on a planet that we should share and I think this country should remember what we stand for, that our statue of liberty reads “give us your poor, your huddled masses”.
As pointed out above, we also do our part, the City and County of LA alone is the 9th biggest economy in the world. CA is 5, one county in CA is 9. Maybe being a big liberal, cutting edge, global state is part of why CA is so successful? While LA shut down very fast and as a result we have VERY many fewer cases of covid deaths, construction here was never shut down. Just in case your aunt was wondering, LA is “speedier” than GA in this case. We’re part of the Western Pact and I think all our states are doing much better. This pandemic is a marathon not a race.
I guess you can kind of give everyone a bit of slack just in the sense that we’re all stressed to the sky right now. But I also think if you want to be like “booyah, hells yes CA!”….I’d agree with that. It sure isn’t perfect, but I’d rather be here than pretty much any other US state.
Post # 5
As a CA resident, I’d like your relative to know I’m tired as heck of my federal taxes subsidizing her state.
I’m fine with what my state is doing, thank you very much.
Post # 6
As a Georgia girl, I am ready for some businesses to open. I do know that we are still in a dangerous time, but there are many people who need to work to support their family. I have been working from home for the past month and do wish I could get back into the office but I understand.
I am willing to foregoe a mani/pedi and will just paint my own nails. Heck, because my meetings are now by zoom, I can go all out and crazy with different colors.
Let’s just be safe.
Post # 7
Sounds like my Mother-In-Law. Complaining about not being able to go to the salons and groomers and church. It’s all about her and how she feels. Wants everything to open up here in ny and her “needs” are above everyone else’s. Mind you she knows many people who were seriously sick with covid and some that passed from it. I do not compute her logic (or anyone who shares it) at all…
Post # 8
Can you have a separate chat set up so you all don’t have to deal with that all the time?
Post # 9
As a Bay Area born-and-raised native for 18 years, and a Los Angeleno of 9 years… I’m finding it hard *not* to make this political.
PPs, thank you for so eloquently explaining the facts about California as a state.
OP, I would honestly block anyone for using the word “illegals,” or at the very least, severely limit my contact with them. I understand your frustration. I think I’ve screamed into my pillow every night for about a month and a half because of peoples’ cavalier responses to the virus. I’ve had a family member hospitalized and a family friend pass away because of the virus. It’s more than okay to feel your feelings of frustration–I wish I could offer you a healthy outlet for that anger. I’ll let you know as soon as I find one.
Post # 10
Have to agree. “Illegals” is a very dehumanizing term that shouldn’t be tolerated. I would definitely “mute” the conversation with this toxic person.”