(Closed) Reverse discrimination – does it bother you?

posted 9 years ago in Legal
  • poll: Is reverse discrimination wrong
    No - you have NO idea what it is to be in their shoes and need to ignore it : (14 votes)
    8 %
    Yes - discrimination and intolerance goes both ways : (139 votes)
    80 %
    Depends on the situation : (16 votes)
    9 %
    Other : (4 votes)
    2 %
  • Post # 152
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    Bee Keeper

    @hilsy85: Isn’t the whole point of this thread discussing how bad it is to discriminate? I’m a person, that’s all you need to know. The colour of my skin does not give you the right to invalidate my life experience.

    Post # 153
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: August 2010

    @abbyful: But how do you expect people to end up equal if they start so far apart, and receive no assistance/do not engage in activism/etc? Do you think it just happens?

    Post # 154
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: August 2010

    @Aure: Again, I’m not trying to do that at all. I’ll bow out of that particular point, since it seems that I’m being misunderstood. 

    Post # 155
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    Helper bee
    • Wedding: July 2009

    @hilsy85: Agreed. It can be difficult to see your privileges. Darling Husband and I have this conversation often. About his male privilege (i.e. walking down the streets of NY and not having the same fears of being assaulted/raped/catcalled) vs. the slight privilege I have as an educated Black woman in the workforce (above Black men).

    Post # 156
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    Buzzing bee

    @Mrs.KMM: 1. I don’t care if other people think I have been giving something.  When I am sitting in the corner office doing my thing, I will be happy.  Others can be mad.  2. What do you think about efforts to make office culture more female friendly.  Women are expected to work and bear children and do it all fantastically while looking amazing.  Should we not offer flex time plans, or day care at work programs?  These will invariably favor women (let’s be honest).  My answer would be a resounding NO!  We are changing office culture so other super-qualified people can succeed.  The status quo isn’t gender/race/culture/anything neutral.  Maintaining it is not the same as combatting any -ism.

    Post # 157
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    Honey Beekeeper
    • Wedding: July 2010

    @hilsy85: Activism?  Awesome, great and perfectly acceptable and beneficial.

    Assisstance (or advantage or priviledge or whatever other term you want to use)?  Not okay and doesn’t do anything, IMO, to remedy the situation.

    Post # 158
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: August 2010

    @mrsjazz: Exactly. And when you’re “in it”, it can be SO HARD to realize it!! 

    Post # 159
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    Busy Beekeeper
    • Wedding: July 2009

    I know this wonderful person named Tim Wise and he does some nice talks on White Privelge, which may help people understand what it is and how it does come in to play.

    http://www.timwise.org/tag/white-privilege/

    Post # 160
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: August 2010

    @Mrs.KMM:  But the point of activism IS change. Not just leaving the status quo. 

    Post # 161
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: August 2020 - Oakland Manor

    @heather25: I guess because I believe in the dream of an society where everyone has equal opportunity and access to education, safety and health?

    Post # 162
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    Honey Beekeeper
    • Wedding: July 2010

    @hilsy85: But activism does not equal providing advantages.

    Post # 163
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    Bee Keeper

    @Mrs Hedgehog: Yes, we absolutely agree on those points, I’m sorry I missed your post before.

    Post # 164
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: August 2010

    @Mrs.KMM: I guess I wouldn’t view it as “advantages”, but more a way to level the playing field (see @Melini‘s example). 

    Post # 166
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: April 2012

    @Mrs.KMM: from a policy and regulatory perspective , yes it does.

    @unixfairy: I dont judge anyone, I dont have to. I dont think you are “bad” because you are white, that’s silly.  I am debating from a sociological perspective.  There is all sorts of research to back this up as well; it’s valid from a laymens as well as academic perspective. 

    CRAP.

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