(Closed) Reverse discrimination – does it bother you?

posted 9 years ago in Legal
  • poll: Is reverse discrimination wrong
    No - you have NO idea what it is to be in their shoes and need to ignore it : (14 votes)
    8 %
    Yes - discrimination and intolerance goes both ways : (139 votes)
    80 %
    Depends on the situation : (16 votes)
    9 %
    Other : (4 votes)
    2 %
  • Post # 167
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    1963 posts
    Buzzing bee

    @Mrs.KMM: I am not sure lots of people have been saying give special privileges to anyone.  At least what I am saying is that I don’t think that many people on this board understand ingrained privilege and are quick to dismiss the sufferings of discrete groups.  I am also saying, don’t assumethat every (insert category) sitting next to you (the 3rd person you, not you specifically) is not as/if not more qualified than you.  Finally, I am saying that equating discrimination of a white man to discriminating against (insert group here) is slightly offensive to me given the ingrained privilege mentioned above.  I don’t want reparations for the deaths of civils rights leaders or the pillage of black farmers.  I do want people to understand that those things happened and I may just be a little sensitive to it 40 to 100 years later in 2011.

    Post # 169
    Member
    3981 posts
    Honey bee
    • Wedding: July 2011

    @Aure: I looked back and realized how poorly I worded everything. I totally understand why you would think we disagreed.

    Post # 170
    Member
    5147 posts
    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: June 2011

    @hilsy85 RE: “But how do you expect people to end up equal if they start so far apart, and receive no assistance/do not engage in activism/etc? Do you think it just happens?”

    Assistance should be based on income/need, not on race/gender.

    Post # 171
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    13095 posts
    Honey Beekeeper
    • Wedding: July 2010

    @Mrs Hedgehog: and @Aure: From reading both of your posts (and comparing them to my personal beliefs), I’m pretty sure all three of us are coming at this with a similar mindset.

    Post # 174
    Member
    1963 posts
    Buzzing bee

    @abbyful: Do people not realize that a lot of college assistance is based on just this very thing.  Why has no one responded to my statement that AA basically does not exist anymore!

    Post # 175
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    3563 posts
    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: August 2010

    @abbyful: But then what about the fact that there is a statistical relationship between race and SES? Black people are more likely to be poor than white people, likely due to racism that they experience. I think that it would be very difficult to address one without addressing the other. Another words, by addressing classism but ignoring racism, you would be continuing a cycle that leaves black people more likely to be poor.

    I don’t know statistics on the relationship between gender and class but I would not be surprised if there were one. 

    Post # 176
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    3563 posts
    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: August 2010

    @unixfairy: But that’s the thing. Being white DOES give you (and me, and every other white person) certain privileges. 

    Post # 177
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    1077 posts
    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: April 2011

    @abbyful:  Low income is one thing, but not the only thing, that creates need.

    Post # 178
    Member
    1963 posts
    Buzzing bee

    @unixfairy: There is a ton of literature on “white privilege”.  Have you had the opportunity to read any of it?  I am not saying you need to subscribe to the belief, but it makes for an interesting read and an informed discussion.  Maybe worth it to do a google search for some of the most well regarded.

    Post # 179
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    13095 posts
    Honey Beekeeper
    • Wedding: July 2010

    @hilsy85: “But then what about the fact that there is a statistical relationship between race and SES? Black people are more likely to be poor than white people”

    But why does the poor black person derserve assisstance any more than the poor white person??

    They should both be considered 100% equally for assisstance.

    Post # 180
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    5147 posts
    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: June 2011

    “But then what about the fact that there is a statistical relationship between race and SES? Black people are more likely to be poor than white people, likely due to racism that they experience.”

    Correlation doesn’t equal causation. Just because someone is black doesn’t mean they should get privileges over someone in the SES that is white, and visa versa.

    Post # 181
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    3563 posts
    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: August 2010

    @Mrs.KMM: I’m not at all saying that they do!!! Just that there IS a difference in their life experiences, and while you can and SHOULD address classism with both of them, you also need to address the reality of racism with the black person. 

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