(Closed) Ripped off??

posted 8 years ago in Rings
Post # 3
262 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: June 2014

@hopefloats: The term “Certified” just means that some 3rd party assessed the attributes of the diamond.  The certification that I feel is the most common is the GIA certification.  So just because it’s certified doesn’t mean it’s GIA certified, but on the same note, just because it’s not GIA certified doesn’t mean it’s not still certified!  They didn’t lie to you.  

You’re right in that I don’t think I’ve ever seen a GIA certified SI3 diamond, but that doesn’t mean that some other association doesn’t use that classification.  And I have no idea what it would equate to if it were GIA certified.  But you know what?  You saw the diamond in person, so if you loved it, then you’ve made a good choice!  I doubt you plan on reselling the diamond, so just make sure it’s something you love! 

Post # 4
1289 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: July 2012

I just googled it and it looks like there are S13 diamonds.  It seems like S12 and S13 are lumped together sometimes though.  I’m not sure about certifications.

Post # 6
90 posts
Worker bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

@hopefloats: My fiance and I went ring shopping together and we picked out a verragio setting, but he actually picked out the center stone himself. It’s an H color SI2 and was certified by EGL which I have seen a lot of mixed reviews about that certification but I will be honest, of course I am a bit biased but I love my center stone. It is super sparkly and looks beautiful in the setting. Although the SI2’s and 3’s can have visible inclusions, who is ever really looking at your ring that close right? I can only see one tiny one on mine and that’s if I am staring at it super close lol. I’m sure your diamond looks fabulous!

Post # 7
5667 posts
Bee Keeper

PPs are right, it can still be certified, even if it’s not GIA.

As far as colour, G is near colourless!


In terms of clarity, SI3 means that there are visible inclusions that you can see without massive magnifications. However, that doesn’t mean it’s visible and/or noticible in the setting. Depending on where and what your inclusion(s) are, you may not be able to tell. Here’s a GIA scale, but your diamond is likely more towards the SI2’s than the I’s because, as PPs said, they get lumped together.


Hope that helps!


Post # 8
429 posts
Helper bee

dont stress yourself ! if you like it buy it. post a pic of your ring that you have now ๐Ÿ™‚ then  post a pic of the new one,, youll c my point. 

Post # 9
3148 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: February 2010

@chesseplease: agreed! 

if you like it and you think you got a good deal, go for it!

I have a I-1 and I didn’t notice the inclusion until I had my ring for over a year! and nobody else would be able to notice it when it’s on my hand. 

Post # 10
2853 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2012

SI3 is sort of like I-1. Certification might be different than an GIA grading.

Reading about diamonds online will drive you insane. I promise. A few things:

Color is relative, and preferences differ (not what is a “good color” versus a “bad”). You picked a G, which is beautiful. Personally I’m not color sensitive. I held my stone (an I) next to an F, and couldn’t tell the difference in the store,

SI1s and SI2s are not guarunteed eyeclean. Plus, you’re going to know every inch of your ring over time. If it’s included you’ll find it (actually, they should have showed it to you), that doesn’t mean everyone else will.

It really depends on what you feel is important. For me, the price and the quality of the cut were the deciding factors. And clarity – I ended up with an SI2. I have a visible inclusion (under the table in a “very bad” place, according to the pricescope boards). I’m fine with it – the facets of the round brilliant hide it really well, I like that it helps me ID my stone, and if we’d upgraded more it would have been big debt, which was not ok.

If you’re still nervous, you could always call the jeweler and see about going in. Depending on what you have done they might be able to swap the stone out. Just try not to stress, I did for a while while we were picking (I actually returned one center stone) and it was no fun.

Post # 11
343 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: October 2012

I have a 1 carat GIA certified color G and clarity SI2—

It has a small crystal in the top right side (it’s a pricess cut).  I notice it but no one else does.  I actually kind of like it.. it’s the one thing that makes it a unique diamond ya know?  and it doesn’t effect how gorgeous it is

Post # 12
853 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: October 2012

I would view the stone in many different lighting situations before you complete the purchase, just so you are comfortable with it. If it looks great to you go for it and enjoy it! I know sometimes jewelers can hide an inclusions under a prong depending on where it is. You can ask about this.  You didnt even mention that there are visible inclusions though . . . And it can still be certified even if not GIA. I have heard of SI3 but not very often.  Usually it’s SI2-through to I1. Bottom Line-we call can second guess decisions and drive ourselves crazy. Try not to and enjoy your upcoming new ring! Post pics please if you can.

Post # 12
1 posts
  • Wedding: December 1969

hopefloats:  I recently got a S13 (1.32 Center diamond) carat ring from my fiancé and I adore it! It is much more affordable to get exactly what you like without a remortgage on the house! Plus, it’s huge. The clarity isn’t perfect but you need a microscope to notice. I’m also a big fan of vintage and natural stones repurposed into new settings so this was a big surprise as I expected a vintage one. The thing we need to remember about diamonds is as the lab made and natural debate continues, prices will drop and the rules get more cloudy on what’s real? 

hopefloats:  hopefloats:  

Post # 13
1552 posts
Bumble bee

Don’t sweat it! My center diamond is a 0.8 carat, I1 clarity (which is in the category lower than the SI’s) and I LOVE it! There are supposedly obvious inclusions, but my fiance and I can’t notice them and we both have good eyesight. Actually, my fiance totally flipped out when he did more research on the clarity ratings, after he’d already ordered the diamond. And you know what? It finally showed up on our doorstep and we were thrilled with it! We saved a bundle on a gorgeous ring and had a great laugh about it ๐Ÿ™‚

Post # 14
47253 posts
Honey Beekeeper
  • Wedding: November 1999

This thread is 3 years old. I’m guessing it’s no longer an issue for the OP.

Post # 15
10573 posts
Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: December 2013

Mk113:  I’m not sure if you realized that this thread is 3 years old. Welcome to weddingbee and congrats on your engagement  ๐Ÿ™‚

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