(Closed) sandy hook hoax.

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Post # 182
Hostess
11165 posts
Sugar Beekeeper

@sleepyhead22:  Agreed. There are some serious issues and questions that come up with this video. And what the heck is up with the Emilie Parker details…FB, photo with the president after she had passed etc?? EDIT: Apparently she had a sister…its on Google etc etc. Duly noted.

I certainly would hate for all of this to deter from anyone’s suffering but again there are valid questions raised in that video.

Post # 184
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: November 2015

@Treejewel19:  Again, as so many other people have stated, Emilie Parker has two younger sisters. Both of them met the President that day. It is entirely possible that she wore her sister’s dress (as a way to remember or be close to her) or that her parents bought matching dresses for the girls or that it’s a hand-me-down.

And, seriously, if this whole thing was a cover up and Emilie never died, why the hell would they allow her to be pictured with the President? And why would the parents post the pictures online for anyone to see? How on earth does that make sense?

Seriously, that video is sick and twisted. There is no “serious issues or questions” raised by it. These conspiracy theories were made up by a bunch of sad people who have nothing better to do and want a bit of attention. End of story.

Post # 185
Hostess
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Sugar Beekeeper

@paula1248:  Seriously? Where did I EVER say that. Talk about a HUGE assumption. In fact I said and I welcome you to read again “I certainly would hate for all of this to deter from anyone’s suffering but again there are valid questions raised in that video.”

I stand by my statement there are valid concerns indicated in the video. I certainly never said or even hinted that it was a hoax or that these children were not murdered. Having questions does not mean the incident did not occur. As someone with a public relations background I am just curious at the spin put on this story. Everyone has a right to ask questions.

/Calm the hell down.

Post # 186
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: November 1999

@Treejewel19:  No they aren’t valid questions. They are stupid, idiotic, insensitive questions.

Post # 188
Hostess
11165 posts
Sugar Beekeeper

@paula1248:  Everyone is entitled to their opinion…and thankfully not everyone forces theirs upon others.

Again I never said this was hoax nor did I hint at it.

 

Post # 189
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: November 1999

@Treejewel19:  You said and I quote “photo with the president after she (Emilie parker) had passed”.

Stupid question, easily debunked

Post # 190
Hostess
11165 posts
Sugar Beekeeper

@paula1248:  Yes I did ask that question and with the answers (again questions are allowed) I edited my statement as those particular points within the film were debunked. Heck maybe all the points within the film will eventually be proven incorrect…I hope so in fact.

I don’t understand why having questions deems others to feel it is appropriate to go on the war path.

Post # 191
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: November 2015

@Treejewel19:  You may not have intended for your post to come across that way, but it did. There really weren’t any valid concerns or questions raised by the video. At all. Saying there were makes it seem as if you agree with the theories or one of them. Normally, I would say it is ok to ask questions about things. . . however, the police have made it very clear that the investigation is not over and it won’t be for a long time. These things take time to try and sort through and the fact that the shooter did his best to destroy his computers before heading to the school makes it even harder.

We may never have a clear idea of what made the shooter do what he did. The Medical Examiner is waiting for the lab results to come in, but he says that (so far) he hasn’t seen anything that would give any clue to why he acted this way. It is possible that we will never know what made him shoot twenty innocent children, six teachers, and his own mother.

I really think that people need to back off and stop coming up with their own theories for now though, especially when they have no proof to support their claims. Despite what others have claimed about not wanting to upset or hurt anyone, these theories have hurt people already.

Post # 192
Hostess
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Sugar Beekeeper

@LoggerHead91207:  There really weren’t any valid concerns or questions raised by the video. At all. Saying there were makes it seem as if you agree with the theories or one of them.

I appreciate your thoughts and comments. I certainly didn’t intend to come across that way but I also don’t think it is fair to assume that this is what I was thinking or feeling.

I have to agree to disagree with the act of asking questions. Looking for answers doesn’t mean we are trying to prove or disprove anything…sometimes it is a way to cope with a situation as it presents itself (especially one this horrible). There is not always a hidden agenda in just asking.

Anyway I will leave it at that. Again so there isn’t any confusion I certainly do not think this was a hoax and I look forward to hearing the details that discredit any such claim.

Post # 193
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: October 2012

so one of my best friends posted a youtube link last night on facebook… i watched it. then i searched for more and watched those.

while i can’t explain the web page time stamps or the apparent insensitivity of emelie’s own father… a lot of the other stuff seems like a bit of a stretch. 

of course there were going to be conflicting news reports and stories… people were panicked and scared. i can tell you, working at a gas station, i have had to talk to the police plenty of times and i always find myself struggling to remember details about something that happened because i wasn’t thinking at the time ‘oh i need to remember this’.

i can see why people would believe this is a hoax… and i would like to if i could… because it would mean that those kids aren’t actually dead. i think these people (at least some of the conspiracy believers) are just unable to believe something this bad could actually happen. 

Post # 194
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: November 2015

@Treejewel19:  I understand that that isn’t what you intended to sound like. I’m sorry it came across that way as well. I understand that asking questions can help people cope, but when people are claiming that the children didn’t actually die or that the government is behind it? Well, that just strikes me as incredibly insensitive and rude to be honest. I’m sure a lot of the people are just attempting to cope and failing spectacularly at it, but I’m also sure that there are people who will attempt to use these theories to their advantage; whether it’s to get attention or money or whatever.

However, I respect the fact that you took the time to clarify though and that you’re willing to hearing evidence, released by the police, in the future.

@rosworms:  Just to clarify your two questions:

1. Time stamps can be altered or faked, even on facebook.

2. Everyone has different reactions and different ways of coping. It’s possible that the news hadn’t completely sunk in for Mr. Parker at that particular moment. It’s also possible that he was smiling and laughing because remembering his daughter and talking about her made him feel a little better. It’s not fair to assume (and I’m not accusing you of doing this) that he isn’t grieving or horribly heartbroken because he isn’t beating the ground with his fists and cursing the heavens. If you watch the actual video of him speaking to the press about Emilie you will see the emotion that man was feeling at the moment.

I +1 the rest of what you said though.

Post # 195
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: January 1999

@paula1248:  +100000000

 

Once again, it happened.  I, personally, know someone whose daughter-in-law teaches there.  She lost her best friend and will never forget such a horrifying time in her life.  

Post # 196
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: October 2014

@LoggerHead91207:  

I find it most insulting that people are questioning the behavior & reactions of the parents as if there’s one single way a person should act in a time of grief.

 

My stepaunt was diagnosed yesterday with stage 4 cancer of the brain, bone & lungs.  Today she’s as chipper as can be and laughing with friends & family.  Should my family start thinking this is an elaborate hoax by her & her doctors in support of Obamacare because she’s not sobbing her heart out?

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