(Closed) sandy hook hoax.

• hyperJulie
• 8 years ago

• Wedding: June 2013

@Lyndzo:  http://www.inquisitr.com/484738/sandy-hook-hoax-were-websites-and-facebook-groups-published-before-the-massacre/

Easily explained. I know specifically for the Vicky Soto memorial page, somebody had an existing page that was created prior to the event and repurposed it. It’s been thoroughly covered.

• Lyndzo
• 8 years ago

@hyperJulie:  thanks!

• AcheneMalefic
• 8 years ago

• Wedding: March 2009

@jadealexaellis:  Yes, I definitely agree.

I’m not saying I think this was a hoax, because I absolutely do not believe it was. Just as there are conspiracy theories for almost every major crisis all over the world, this one is no different (meaning it is obviously going to be discredited by people). I am devastated that this happened, as I actually posted in the thread started soon after the incident.

I believe the government is using this incident to push forward with their desire for greater gun control, but I don’t believe it was set up solely for that purpose! My hearts are broken for the children that lost their lives.

• jadealexaellis
• 8 years ago

• Wedding: July 2013

@LoggerHead91207:  I agree with pretty much everything you just said. I didn’t come on here to argue, and I don’t really feel as though anyone is coming at me heatedly. I understand why people could be offended, but it’s not as though I am not an emotional person. I cried when I found out what happened. It was crazy for me to wrap my head around someone going into a classroom and killing CHILDREN. I still feel that way. Exploring other people’s ideas about what may have happened doesn’t make me a bad person. Just a curious person. I’m not at all embarassed because of it, and I don’t even expect you to be civil. You can do whatever you please, just as I can. 

• LoggerHead91207
• 8 years ago

• Wedding: November 2015

@jadealexaellis:  The second I saw this thread I pretty much knew what it was going to be. I didn’t want to argue or bicker or fight about any of this because it hurts to think about it. But at the same time, I feel a need to try and set the record straight. When people spread these theories around and actively claim that they are true, it does hurt the families and those affected. It hurts them very badly.

I know that you have no intention of hurting them and I believe when you say that you are just curious. Being curious doesn’t make you a bad person. I really just wish that people would stop coming up with these messed up ideas when the answers are so simple.

 

• lunabella
• 8 years ago

• mixtapehearts
• 8 years ago

• Wedding: June 2014

This thread is disgusting. 

• allyfally
• 8 years ago

• Wedding: April 2014

@paula1248:  Okay, fine. But that doesnt mean that its right to resort to name calling and insults because they dont agree with you. You cant expect everyone to all agree on something. And as far as I’m aware, nobody in this forum is harrassing the families of the victims, so to harrass them because of the actions of other people is just ridiculous.  And I dont mean you in particular because I didnt pay attention to if you were one of the insulting people.

@BartenderPlease:  And if it happened to be true? Would you still say were sick?

@Scc6a:  You can still have an opinion about facts. Just because you think otherwise doesnt mean they’re opinion is any less of an opinion.

 

Honestly, I like this forum and all, but y’all are some of cattiest women I’ve ever “met.” As soon as someone doesn’t agree with you, you immediately whip out the claws and name calling.

• lolot
• 8 years ago

• Wedding: August 2013 - Rocky Mountains USA

@allyfally:  y’all are some of cattiest women I’ve ever “met.” As soon as someone doesn’t agree with you, you immediately whip out the claws and name calling.

Dude.  Disagreeing over something like a wedding dress style is one thing.  But to see people who legitimately think that Obama and other Democrats in government engineered a mass murder of children to further their agenda…. that is so incredibly reprehensible and sick to consider as a possibility.  Saying that isn’t catty, it’s a basic human response to a disgusting and abhorrent conspiracy theory that is in no way based in reality.

• allyfally
• 8 years ago

• Wedding: April 2014

@lolot:  It would be awful if it was true. It really would. But maybe you havent noticed, people suck. Just because something is awful and horrible to think about, doesnt mean it couldnt happen.

  

• hope1275
• 8 years ago

• Wedding: August 2010

1) Eyewitnesses are generally unreliable, so much so that at times people have considered whether eyewitness accounts should even be admissible in court. In addition, anyone who has ever played Telephone as a child will tell you that details get distorted from one person to the next, sometimes in incredibly wild ways. That’s what the media is when interviewing witnesses to an event – the last player in a game of Telephone. It’s also the problem that law enforcement runs into when interviewing witnesses in their attempt to figure out what happened.

The problem on our end is that most of us aren’t taught in school how to distinguish between reliable and unreliable sources in the media (or the internet) in school. When I first tried to figure it out on my own, I definitely needed help! So here are a couple of sites with tips on how to tell the difference, for anyone who’s interested:

http://www.wikihow.com/Evaluate-the-Credibility-of-a-Source

http://www.virtualsalt.com/evalu8it.htm (Evaluating Internet Research Sources)

 

2) All administrations control what information the media is given or allowed to share about government/policy or national security issues – some administrations more so than others – but they don’t actually control the media. If they did we would hear nothing but good things about current politicians/administrations and nothing but bad things about candidates or the minority party, regardless of their politics.

 

@Lyndzo:  Someone else answered that before, but at least one of them, Victoria Soto, already had a page which was changed to a memorial page after she was killed.

• aussiemum1248
• 8 years ago

• Wedding: November 1999

@allyflly writes, “as far as I’m aware, nobody in this forum is harrassing the families of the victims”

But indirectly they are. How would the victims’ relatives feel if they came to this site and found that (by my estimate) about 1/4 of women here think that there is a possibility that the massacre was a hoax? And when so many people are willing to believe it, it gives credibility and encouragement to the harassers.

There are right ways to question a tragedy. By doing research properly, rather than coming up with crackpot theories which can be dismissed with 10 seconds’ thought. For instance, a couple of days ago an American college football player was exposed for faking (or possibly being the victim of) a dead girlfriend story. The article which exposed it checked the sources, came up with a plausible alternative, and didn’t publish until the authors were sure they were right. In the case of Sandy Hook, there are so many independent witnesses it could not possibly be hoax.

• Ariadne
• 8 years ago

• Wedding: December 2019 - City, State

@paula1248:  Agreed. And honestly, this thread and the conspiracy theorists therein have kind of turned me off from this site. I have lurked for a long time, finally created an account recently, and then found this…and haven’t been here nearly as often as I was before the thread. It sickens me to think I might be spending time in a group where 25% of people really believe this crazy garbage. I keep telling myself that the thread title may have just drawn a disrepresentative sample of ghouls.

• cemetree
• 8 years ago

• Wedding: May 2013

i can’t even believe some of you agree with the hoax theory on sandy hook.. this honestly breaks my heart. as a parent my heart aches for those poor children.. i am just honestly disgusted at this whole thread….

• BartenderPlease
• 8 years ago

• Wedding: August 2012

@allyfally if a bunch if people accused your husband of molesting children because they didn’t like his political beliefs, and spread it all over the Internet, then claimed the way you dealt with it made you look guilty too… Without a shred of actual evidence or proof, and despite plenty of evidence that the claims were invented… You would probably not be yapping about being catty and respecting opinions when people stood up against his accusers. That’s all I’m doing. sometimes opinions are wrong, offensive, and deserve to be put in their place. When you are defending people who are further damaging the lives of heartbroken mourning parents to satisfy political paranoia, you’re part of the problem, and you bet your ass ill stand up to it.