Post # 1
I hate being a whistleblower, I really do. If it doesn’t hurt me directly, I usually turn the other way when I see shady school things happening. Not my business. That said, I’m livid right now:
My summer class professor has explicitly, loudly, and frequently banned all computers, tablets, and phones from our class. Going so far as to stop in the middle of a lecture to chastise someone for even having a laptop on their desk (closed).
There’s one girl who’s had hers open every day of class, so I’m assuming she worked with the office of student disabilities to have an exception made. And then I get this email today”
“I have been taking notes on my computer from day one up until now.
If you would like me to print out the detailed notes for you for exam #1 please email me by midnight tonight.
15 dollars for all the notes to cover the cost of ink/paper/and time.”
I called her out on it and she insists she’s not making a profit, but if that were the case, she could email the notes for free. I wouldn’t be upset AT ALL if I would have been given the same opportunity to take the kind of detailed notes you get on a computer. But she’s using her exception for profit!
Would you report her?
Post # 3
Totally would. I’ve reported plaigarism before. Proudly.
Post # 4
Yes, I would report her, although anonymously if possible in case there is backlash from the less ethical people (including her). I’ve noticed that at certain schools and in certain departments, it’s like high school and everyone chooses sides and plays favorites.
1) This is unfair to you and the other students who are honest, especially if there’s a curve. Plus, it is unfair to other disabled students who really do need additional tools to help them learn.
2) In the real world, this stuff doesn’t fly. At least in my experience, those in corporate America that are “cheating” usually get caught and booted.
3) this may cause problems for other disabled students in the future, in the event they rewrite policy to completely ban x, y and z for these types of reasons.
Her time, really? So all the time you and your fellow classmates have been sitting there doesn’t count? And one 400 count ream of paper from Target is like $4, including tax.
Post # 5
@jpalm13: I’ve also reported plagerism before. P*sses me off.
Post # 6
I think the opposite. So it kind of sucks that she’s charing $15, but would you complain if someone was an excellent speed handwritten note taker and charged you for a photocopy? I don’t think so. I think she thinks she’s doing you all a favor, and if you don’t see it that way I don’t think you should tattle. What she does with her notes is none of the prof’s business, in my opinion. If I were the prof I would be annoyed at computer girl, but I would also think you tattling was whiney and childish.
I had to go to the disability office this past semester, because I was having trouble handwriting notes and essays during class. I’ve always had a problem holding my pens correctly, but this semester I had a prof (like the one you have) that said absolutely no electronics for notetaking. If it were a situation where I benefitted in any way, I think I would want the rest of my classmates to benefit as well. She’s not selling tests or anything, just her personal notes. I don’t see anything wrong with it.
Post # 7
Technically she isnt really doing anything wrong. She was allowed to have it, she could take notes with it. What she wants to do with it is up to her. I wouldnt buy it anyways. I think its so much easier to take notes by hand than on a computer.
Post # 8
I don’t really see the issue? I mean she is clearly making a profit, but I don’t see how it’s wrong for someone to give notes to other students for a fee? It’s not like she’s writing their papers for them? I don’t see how this is cheating or wrong in any way. Don’t buy her notes if you don’t like it.
Post # 9
@GoldfishPie: But it’s not that she’s better at taking notes, it’s that she’s allowed to use a computer, which by default, takes better notes, than the rest of the class.
If someone were selling her tape recording of class, or handwritten notes, I would have NO problem with it. But considering I’m a primarily computer-note taker, I’m at a handicap and kind of in a position where I can pay the $15, or limp along on my messy-ass handwriting.
Plus, there are 100 people in the class… she stands to make $1500.
Post # 10
Hell yes I would report it. This girl, not the rest of the class, got special permission to take notes on her computer. Selling them to classmates gives others an unfair advantage and is an abuse of her exceptional circumstances.
Special privileges are not an invitation to abuse the system.
Post # 11
@bells219: I’m confused. What is she doing that is different from taking notes by hand?
Am I missing something?
This does seem kind of childish on your part–she’s not disobeying the rules and the only difference between her notes and yours are that hers are typed. Students who have missed a couple of classes could easily benefit from payin $15 to get typed notes rather than having to decipher someone elses handwriting.
It kind of sounds like you’re angry with her for getting special treatment, when that really isn’t your call to make
Post # 12
@DeathByDesign: I don’t think it’s wrong, I would never report someone selling their computer notes to other students in a class where everyone else also had the opportunity to take computer notes. Some people are lazy and don’t want to take the best notes even if they had the opportunity.
I actually just want the opportunity to use my computer. I don’t care what she does with her notes or what idiot buys them
If computers were allowed for everyone in the class, this wouldn’t be an issue.
Post # 13
I’d email her and ask her to send them for free because you can just print them yourself.
I don’t think I’d care that she had a laptop, but I would care that she was making a profit, that’s just shady.
If you’re just uncomfortable with anyone having notes, I’d just forward the email to the professor with a “I felt weird about this, so I just figured I would forward it to you to handle.” You don’t have to do anything more than that.
EDIT: Actually, now that I think about it, I do think it’s a little weird. If she has special permission to use her laptop, that’s just for her. No one else should be getting the opportunity just because they can pay $15. But then she could be taking poor notes? Or notes the same quality as everyone else’s handwritten ones?
Post # 14
I wouldn’t report her. Her notes aren’t magical, they’re just not handwritten. What if shes a complete idiot and typed up only inconsequential information? I had a class last semester that let us bring a page of notes for our exam and I let other kids in my class have my (awesome) version for a beer.
Post # 15
@bells219: You could have taken your written notes in class and then typed them up when you got home that day. That’s what I did when I was in college and didn’t have a laptop. Then you could have had the same “advantage”.
Post # 16
Yes, I’d be pissed, and, yes, I’d probably point it out to an authority figure anonymously. I think that’s taking serious advantage on top of an already advantageous situation. Honestly, though, I’d be most annoyed with the professor for not allowing students to take computer notes. I mean, I get banning cell phones, facebook & playing Scrabble on your IPad, but notes altogether? That just seems kind of OTT. Particularly as it doesn’t sound like he has any detailed notes available to you (other than what you take by hand, in class)? If people would really pay $15 for a copy of these notes, I’m assuming the lecture(s) were set up in the kind of way that made it difficult to keep up by hand.