(Closed) Second shooter questions!

posted 6 years ago in Photos/Videos
Post # 3
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2012

Yes and Yes ๐Ÿ™‚

Post # 5
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Helper bee

If you tip the main, you should tip the 2nd… but tipping at all is up to you and the quality of service provided. As for food, you should be prepared to feed all your vendors and their crew. It doesnt have to be a feast, but some quality nourishment will equal a happy vendor and better service for you ๐Ÿ™‚

Post # 6
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

i’m in the same situation and we’re definitely tipping the 2nd shooter and feeding both…

but i don’t know if i should tip our photographer- since she owns her own business.

Post # 7
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: November 2011

The photog’s contract should require you to feed her/him ๐Ÿ™‚

Post # 8
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: June 2012

And check the contract as some will require “hot” meals. Hot meals means whatever your guests are eating (minus the pretty presentation). If it isn’t listed, you may get by with sandwiches. Our caterer feeds hot meals either way.

Post # 9
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2006

Here’s some advice to you- feed your photographers the same meal as your guests.  You don’t have to necessarily feed them every course, but they will really appreciate a decent meal after working hard for 6 or 7 hours straight.  Feeding them a sandwich sends a message in a way, and it’s doesn’t make them feel valued.  Food can be a powerful thing!  If you do decide to feed them what the guests are having, communicate this to the caterer!  Caterers are notorious for providing inedible sandwiches to photographers.  The other thing they usually want to do is feed them last.  Not only have the photographers likely been working for 6-7 hours without a break, but it’s also in your interest to have them fed first and ready to jump up to cover speeches or special activities during your dinner.  A final note- they need to be fed somewhere that they can at least hear what’s going on in the dining room.  Every so often there is a surprise event during a dinner, and if you want a photo of it it won’t happen if they don’t know.  Another thing caterers are notorious for doing is making the photographers eat in places far away from the main dining room.

Post # 10
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2009

@continuumphotography:  +1 … I also wanted to add about being fed last… I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been told i’d be fed “after all the guests have been served” and then THE MINUTE they FINALLY put a plate of food in front of me, someone comes to get me to tell me that the couple is ready to do the cake cutting. Nothing like being served that nice hot meal and then having to let it sit there and get cold or even more likely cleaned up while I’m off shooting the cake cutting. Ladies, this is an EXTREMELY rude way to treat your vendors if you let your venue do that, and some photographers I know that has happened to will refuse to photograph again until they’ve had a minute to eat.

@Beckster329:  Even as a photographer, I actually have a slightly different answer to your question. First, I DO NOT expect a tip. I charge what I need to charge for my services and I VERY much appreciate a hot meal and 15 minutes to eat it… I’d much rather have the polite treatment at your wedding than any the extra money. The easiest way to ensure your photographer is not fed last is to seat them in the dinning room with the other guests. Venues serve one table at a time, so while we may not get to eat first (ideal) this ensures we’re most likely not last either.

As for the 2nd photographer, if you DO tip the primary photographer, please DO NOT tip the second shooter as well. Second shooters are paid based on experience and taken care of by the primary. They are there as an employee of the main company and it is up to the primary to determine if the second has done a good job and reward them appropriately. I’ve had seconds completely get in my way and ruin my shots (the shots the bride wants and paid for) only to be rewarded with a tip from the bride. The second, however, will be equally appreciative of the same hot meal you provide your guests and the primary photographer, and that’s really all that is needed for either photographer.

Post # 11
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: October 2014

@Beckster329:  Feed yes.  Tip, depends.  If the second shooter is their spouse, then I’d skip it, otherwise, you ought to tip.

Post # 12
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: November 2011

I would def feed them both, that’s a givin, but as far as tipping…that’s up to you. We did not tip our first photographer because she did NOT exceed our expectation for the day, she barely even met our expectations. Plus we paid her enough as it was.

Post # 13
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2011

Check with your photographer before you plan a meal for them (if it isn’t already covered in the contract). We planned to feed our photographer and counted him in the total, but then he didn’t eat all night–said he never does. So, it was a wasted meal ๐Ÿ™‚

Post # 14
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: November 2012

I’m a photographer but I’ll say right here weddings are not my main bread and butter. Certainly you feed both photographers.

About the tip:

I think you give one tip to the photographer (assuming you want to) and then they can split it however they want.  You aren’t going to go around tipping each individual waiter, just one tip for the caterer and they divide it. It’s the same for the photographer. If you are concerned that the second shooter isn’t going to see any money it wouldn’t hurt to split the tip however you prefer and give them the money that way, but it isn’t necessary.

Post # 15
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: November 2012

@PassionatePhotoLady:  

I just wanted to second your first comment- Nobody wants photos of themselves or their guests eating, so the best time to feed the photographer is when everyone else is enjoying a meal as well!

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