(Closed) secret wedding, going anon for this. please help!

posted 6 years ago in Legal
Post # 16
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: July 2016

 

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ShhhItsaSecret:  OMG I totally read your “name” the way I’m sure it’s not meant ROTFL

Post # 17
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: July 2015

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RedHeadKel:  They actually can claim you past 18. My parents claimed me until I was 23. A parent/guardian can claim any child under 24 as long as they are a full time student.

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larena4800:  If you file jointly with your husband, your parents can’t claim you anymore. I believe they can still claim you as a dependent if you file separately from your husband, but I would verify that to make sure.

Also, if you don’t have a family accountant to talk to, I would suggest reading up on the IRS website. I don’t mean this in an insulting way, but wedding bee probably isn’t the best place to go for tax information especially since it is constantly changing.

http://www.irs.gov/publications/p17/ch03.html

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Post # 18
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

they might be able to still list you as a dependent for the year that you were married (depending on when you get married), but probably not after that. i wasn’t working the year that i got married and when we had our taxes done, they said that either my parents or my husband could claim me (not both). we let my parents claim me because i lived with my parents for most of the year and they helped us a lot with the wedding, but my husband and i would have gotten a lot more money back if we had filed together and he had claimed me instead. 

Post # 19
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2014

 

RedHeadKel:  In the US, you can claim someone as a dependent if they are a fulltime student up to the age of 24.  You can claim them up to 19 no mater what, acutally.  The only thing that stops you from claiming a child dependent is if they file their own personal tax return or if they are married. 

Post # 20
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Helper bee

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HannahGrace:  is right, larena4800’s parents can absolutely claim her, regardless of marital status.

If she is under 19, or under 24 and a full time student

If they actually support her

AND

If she does not file a joint return with her husband.

Honestly, to all the other posters, if you don’t know the law, either don’t reply, or go look it up first.

Post # 21
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: December 2014

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MrsWe:  Yeah I realized that after I made it LOL

Post # 24
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Sugar bee

What is going to happen WHEN (not if) the shit hits the fan?  Are they going to be less upset that you not only did what they expressly didn’t want, but that you then took (stole?) money from them under false pretenses, and had a fake wedding?

After you talk to the lawyer and the accountant, it would be good to speak with the person who is actually going to marry you.  In my area, officiants will not do a non-legal ceremony in the same way as a legal.  No “by the power vested in me….”, no “do you take this man….” no “I now pronounce you….”  There will be a service but it will very much be a to re-affirm the committment, or to celebrate the marriage of.  Definitely clear to those in attendance that it is a confirmation, a blessing, a vow-renewal, but not a wedding.

Some people will not care about not seeing a legal wedding, I don’t predict your family will be amongst them based on what you posted.

Post # 25
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

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larena4800:  Read the section on Qualifying Child

http://www.irs.gov/publications/p17/ch03.html#en_US_2013_publink1000170891

It’s going to depend on when, in the calander year, this all goes down.  If you are 23 and legally married by the end of the year (2014) and your parents are currently claiming you as a dependent, then you are definitely going to have issues when it comes to taxes and you will have to come clean about your secret wedding.  

So if you turn 23 in, say Nov. 2014, and get married in Dec. 2014, then you’re going to have a bad time.

If, however, you turn 23 in Nov. 2014, get married in Jan. 2015 then turn 24 in Dec. 2015, then you’ll be fine.  Your parents can’t claim you the year you turn 24.

I think the best thing to do is to be honest and stand up to your parents.  It’s going to suck, but you are adults and you need to be confident in your decisions.  Maybe you can find a nice compromise where you have your wedding now, but in a year have a marriage blessing and a big reception to celebrate.

Post # 26
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: June 2017

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larena4800:  If you’re 23, your parents can claim you as long as you are a full-time student for five months of the year, they have provided half of your support for the year (ie living expenses, school expenses, etc), and you have not filed a joint tax return.

Depending on your state, your boyfriend can claim you as a dependent if you receive half your support from him and you earn below a certain amount.  However, if your parents are providing half or more of your support, he cannot do that.

Marital status does not affect base tuition cost, but it may affect aid and scholarships.  For example, tuition that is $17,000 for a school will be $17,000 regardless if that person is married or not, but they may get different aid.  In general (this is not the rule), you receive better aid when married if you are under 24 and your spouse doesn’t make a lot.  If you are over 24 and/or your spouse makes a good amount, you will not qualify for as much. (What’s yours is mine.)

I don’t know if there is a section for marital status for a dependent, but if there is, I would not lie on it.  Honestly, I wouldn’t try to hide this from my parents, because it does create a whole web of issues to get tangled in, and it would be awful if they were caught for fraud because their daughter hid a marriage from them.

Post # 27
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: December 2014 - Loft

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larena4800:  I just want to say GOOD FOR YOU. You will get a mixed review on this but it is your big day. My Fiance and I are doing the exact same thing and I am so happy with our decision. At the end of the day this is about you, your love and your marriage. Do what makes you happy. Be prepared for people to have an opinion, but just stand tall.

Post # 28
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Honey Beekeeper
  • Wedding: November 1999

I’d feel incredibly guilty accepting money from my parents to support me, while lying to their faces about being married.  This is a terrible idea.  A lie is a lie, and a liar is a liar.  Do you want to be a liar, or do you want to be honest?

Post # 29
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

So let me get this straight.  Your parents are paying for school, and they are paying for a wedding you don’t even want.

Sounds like you need to cut the mommy and daddy apron strings before you think about getting married, secret or not.  If you can’t stand up to them and be an independent person, you aren’t mature enough to be married.

Post # 30
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Sugar bee

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larena4800:  It will get sticky. 

Your parents claim you and therefore, recieve a tax credit at the end of the year for you. 

Once you are married YOU CANNOT BE CLAIMED AS A DEPENDENT. Once you are married, you are considered an independent adult even if you still live with them and use their money. 

They will find out from the IRS which is not ideal. When will you be finished with school?

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