(Closed) Shallow cut diamonds with large spread

posted 3 years ago in Rings
Post # 2
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Bumble bee

I don’t have one, but the other consideration is – to determine if the chance of a shallow diamond cracking/breaking is higher?  I would only do it if I insured the ring/stone.

Post # 3
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Bumble bee

A shallow cut diamond would react to light more like a rose cut diamond from back in the day.  Rose cuts are flat at the bottom and are almost like a diamond “chip”.  They’re still very, very beautiful.  There are several bees on here with rose cuts.  You can also see some nice videos on youtube.

Post # 4
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Helper bee

Hi!

My boyfriend and I were gifted a family diamond to use to create our own ring. We had it checked last week. Based on a comparison with my mom’s .50 diamond I thought it was likely around a .70 in size. The jewler actually informed us it’s a .54 but since it’s a shallow diamond it has the appearance of a larger one. Because it’s shallow, it can never be an “excellent” or “ideal” cut diamond. If we were purchasing new, we would have opted for cut over carat. However, due to the sentimental value in this case we are sticking with the family diamond. I expressed concern about this to the jewler (about the reduced cut quality and less sparkle) and she was so great: basically said if I like the way it looks then who cares about the specs that the diamond industry created to sell diamonds. I think the diamond is really sparkly anyways and I really like it. It’s a bit coudier than some of the “ideal” cut ones I tried on in the store but honestly I don’t care what anyone else thinks- nor do I think anyone else will notice (other than the ladies on the bee who are experts in spotting inclusions!). I love it. We also save a ton of $

Here is a pic of the original ring. We are having it re-set. It’s 100+ years old. I actually really like the original setting but my boyfriend doesn’t like the idea of essentially regifting me something- which I totally understand !!!

Post # 6
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: March 2000

I actually searched for a shallow cut diamond and couldn’t find one online where did you find it?

I personally don’t think they liok like a rose cut diamond at all but thats me I was looking for one to get more of a larger look but they seem to be hard to find 😉

Post # 7
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Helper bee

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lauralei101 :  Thanks! Honestly I have no idea if it’s an OEC – i had to look that up! I imagine she would have told us if it was. Seems like an important thing to mention now that i’ve read about it. We are having it re-set into a halo with a plain shank.

The link you sent looks BEAUTIFUL!

Post # 8
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Bumble Beekeeper

I actually saw this diamond in the newsletter or on insta, I cant remember. The cut is pretty bad. If you only value size, its a great buy. But its really not that sparkley and you are getting 0 of the OEC appeal (flower facets, big bright flashes). 

Are you in the US? I think she does a 3 day inspection period so you can see how you like it, take it to a store and compare against other diamonds. 

Post # 10
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Buzzing bee

True – OEC’s tend to have a smaller face up than MRB’s. But the difference is minimal and REALLY not noticeable to the naked eye.

For instance, a typical, well-cut MRB is ~8.2mm. And my ideal cut 2ct AVR is 8mm.

I say if you really love the OEC faceting, then go look for a WELL-CUT OEC. You don’t want to get a shallow one that sacrifices performancel just for an additional 0.1 or 0.2mm’s!

Post # 12
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Buzzing bee

lauralei101 :  The pastel hues are what MOST OEC fans are after. I think it’s a product of the angles and larger facets unique to OEC’s, not just AVR’s. But “new” OEC manufacturers definitely play up the pastel shots to appeal to the fanbase at large. 

You can get pastel flashes off E’s all the way down to Y/Z’s – it doesn’t have anything to do with the stone’s color.

Depending on the lighting, my I-color AVR can be steely grey, crystal clear white, pastel, or ivory-tinted.

Post # 13
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Bumble Beekeeper

How low are in colour you willing to go? Have you looked at Old world diamonds? I find he carries a really great selection. They won’t all be ideal cut, but they’ll likely be better than the one from LAD. But again, you can order it, check it out and return it if you dont like it.

Post # 14
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Bumble bee

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elizabee17 :  I would keep the original setting! It is beautiful! Tell him to put that money towards another something sparkly for you!

Post # 15
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: August 2018

I would really discourage you from purchasing that shallow cut diamond and would suggest you look into what PP’s have suggested and go down in color and clarity. Cut is truly important for having a sparkly diamond and a shallow cut will give it the impression of a CZ. Sparkle is really generally what people are stunned by, not size, and if you want sparkle and size, many bees here would suggest you look into CZ, lab diamonds, or Moissanite! 

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