Post # 1
Does anyone know if it is possible/likely to get PG with a short cycle? I stopped BCP in November 2011. Since then, my cycles have been 20 days, 25 days, 15 days, 24 days, 22 days, 22 days, 23 days. Two months ago I started using OPK’s and got a positive on a Wonfo and digital on CD 9. This past month, I never got a postive digital but I think the Wondfo looked positive on CD 9. I always drink a lot of water and tried hard to cut back but think that my sample wasn’t very concentrated. I do not chart, due to frequently waking in the night, different waking times, etc. So, what do you think, is my cycle long enough to get PG? We have only had three cycles of actively TTC but I am starting to worry.
At my preconception appointment in January, my OB/GYN said if my cycles didn’t regulate soon to come back for some bloodwork, so I am going to call today. I need to get my thyroid levels checked again anyway. In January she said my Thyroid level at 4.5 was a little high for TTC. Oh, and I am 36 and so I am trying to be proactive since my clock is ticking! Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Post # 3
@kentuckygirl: My periods also drastically shortened after I stopped using bcp. DH and I started using natural family planning and in doing that I learned that it was specifically the luteal phase which had shortened. A short luteal phase is related to difficulty in TTC. DH and I aren’t currently ttc, but in an effort to work with my cycle I am taking Optivite (a multivitamin that has large levels of B6 vitamin). It is supposed to help your body produce the right level of hormones that extend the luteal phase. These hormones are often dysregulated by taking bcp. I might ask your doctor if it’s possible your luteal phase is short. If so they can also give you creams and hormone pills that will help to lengthen it.
I hope this helps and good luck with everything!
Post # 4
i would think that in your case both your follicular phase as well as your luteal phase would be on the very short side. if you ovulate so early I would assume that your lining would not get enough time to build up and if AF shows up 11 days after your first positive OPK your luteal phase might be too short as well. but i’m not a doctor and don’t have any medical background so don’t take my response as a diagnosis.
are you open minded towards alternative medicine? you could look into tcm and try acupuncture/chinese herbs for 3 months and see if that helps to improve your cycles. i know that many women had great success with it. good luck!
Post # 5
My cycles were also very short after I went of BCP. We got pg the first time we didn’t use a condom. My doc says short cycles are fine and can actually make it easier since you don’t have to wait as long etc, but it really depends on whether you have a shotened luteal phase or not.I didn’t, was just ovulating around day 8 or 9.
Post # 6
My cycles are also shorter after going off BCP. I don’t chart, but I track my cycles w/ an app on my phone. My cycles are between 24-26 days, with one being 29. Before BC, they were consistently 29. I think I O around day 11 or 12. It’s kinda nice to have a shorter cycle, but I do worry a little… We’re not TTC, but hopefully within the next few months.
Post # 7
@kentuckygirl: Some of those cycles sound like they might be a little too short (esp. 15 days!), but others sound possibly okay. As long as your LP (time between ovulation and Aunt Flo) is at least 10 days, you are probably okay. Keep in mind that you might actually ovulate 1-2 days after your first positive opk. My cycles are short and I count myself as lucky when it comes to TTC (otherwise, it’s a drag having AF come so often!). I usually have AF CD 1-7, ovulate on CD 11 or 12, then have a 11-12 day LP (my total cycle is 23-24 days). I’ve gotten pregnant twice, though I lost the first one.
Post # 8
4.5 is too high for your thyroid. I believe that around 3 is the current range for normal. Please make sure you doc re-runs that and press them on it.
Those cycles are rather short. I’d be pressing the doc to investigate at 36.
Here’s by brief story if your interested. I went off the pill in November 2010 just after I had turned 37, my cycles were okay at first but got shorter to around 23-24 days with lots of spotting. One GYN blew me off, the second a few months later tested me and we found progesterone issues and a did a cycle of Clomid followed by prometrium (progesterone) with no luck. So off to the RE where I have begun treatment. I went though a bunch of testing and now I’m in the middle of an IUI cycle.
Post # 9
I have short cycles as well. We won’t be ttc until beginnng of next year at the earlliest so I guess I won’t be much help. But, I am interested in hearing some success stories!
Post # 10
Your thyroid levels are WAY too high, you are a candidate for medication at that level. You may need to find a new doctor to treat you.
Thyroid Dr’s can be very difficult…UGH
Post # 11
First, thank you all for your replies!!
@Aggie10: Can you tell me if the vitamin you take is OTC or does it require a prescription? I may look into that.
@elchalten: I am interested in accupuncture. Can you tell me me more about TCM (is that Chinese medicine)? Is there any certain book or website you would suggest for me to read?
@plantains: I am thinking since I got a positive OPK on CD 9 that I probably O’d on day 10 or 11 giving me an 11-12 day LP. Glad to hear it is possible to get PG!
@78h2o: I am so sorry for your loss. I hope that your current pregnancy is healthy! How far along are you now?
@kayakgirl73: I am so sorry you had to deal with a doctor who didn’t take your short cycle seriously. Fortunately my OB/GYN did prescribe Snythroid for my high thyroid. I need to go back for new bloodwork to see how I have responded to the medication. I hope my Dr. takes my short cycles seriously, although I haven’t been having any spotting. I hope you have great luck with your IUI. I have two friends starting it right now and so I’ll keep my FX for all of you!!
@CoffeeandCream: Fortunately I am on medication for a couple of months now. I just need to see how I have responded. Have you experienced thyroid issues? Did it take a while to regulate?
Thank you all so very much for your replies! It sounds like there have been some success stories with short cycles. I hope to see my Dr. soon to get her opinion!
Post # 12
@kentuckygirl: I”m over 35 myself. I stopped BC in July and we started TTC in August. My cycle after I stopped BC went from 28-30 days down to 22 days. It has gradually gotten up to 26 days. I started temping in November and I ovulated on CD 7! It has gradually gone to CD11. I went for bloodwork and a follice ultrasound last month. Even though my temps show I’m ovulating my medical tests show that it is a weak ovulation b/c my progesterone is so low and my follicles are too small to be viable. I definitely recommend getting in to see your doctor and letting them know your cycle length, etc. I am on my first round of Clomid this cycle, I have to get bloodwork done 3 times and get 2 follicle ultrasounds. I’m hoping this is my month.
I wish you the best of luck. I wish I had a more positive story to share with you.
Post # 13
@Wispy: Thank you, especially for specifics on what the short cycle mean. Can you tell me what type of testing you had that showed you have a weak O? Was it the ultrasound? Do you see an RE or just an OB/GYN? Good luck to you too!!!
Post # 14
@kentuckygirl: I am just trying to figure it out as I go. LOL. I started temping in November and I keep track on fertility friend. After 6 failed cycles I saw my DR (she is a phys asst in a large obgyn office). She had me try 2 more cycles b/c my chart was showing a temp shift and indicating I was O’ing each mth. No luck. Last month I had CD3 bloodwork (it measures hormone levels and a thyroid check). I was told it looked good though idk the specifics. Then on CD10 I had an internal ultrasound (oh fun). They look at the size and number of follicles. They can tell you if you are close to O also. Then on CD21 I had more bloodwork and that checks progesterone levels (I have thought this would be low b/c I have spotted about 4 days before AF each month and spotting is unusual for me). So based on my results.. I have fibroids, small follicles that wouldn’t really be viable and low progesterone.. b/c of this my doctor believes that I don’t really O strong enough. I was then referred to a different phys asst in my obgyn office who specializes in fertility. Based on my age they realize I have to get a move on. So I started clomid this cycle. I am repeating the same bloodwork and ultrasound. If the ultrasound shows that the follices haven’t responded to the clomid then I am being sent to and RE asap.
I hope this helps. Please let me know if I can help at all. Good Luck!
Post # 15
Just to give you a positive story… I have always had short cycles. I conceived two weeks after my wedding. My previous cycle before I conceived was 15 days (way too short).
I wound up miscarrying at 11 weeks. We have been “trying” again for three cycles without getting pregnant again. Weirdly my last cycle was a perfect 28 days, which hasn’t happened in YEARS. But just so you know, it is possible to get pregnant when you are having short cycles.
Post # 16
@kentuckygirl: yes TCM stands for Traditional Chinese Medicine. there are two books i can recommend.
- Making Babies: A proven 3 months program
it is a 3 months dietary change/exercise kind of program based on your fertiliy type. i found it really interesting to fill out the questionnaire and see what it tells me.
here is the online questionnaire to figure out what fertility type you are.
- The Infertility Cure
another great book. But this one is much more detailed. i read it after prob two months of tcm treatment and loved it. i prob wouldn’t recommend it before the treatments as all the information that you get can be a bit overwhelming.