Post # 1
oh my goodness; I just found out from a colleague last week who just left that I have been the lowest paid for 3 straight years well below standard pay, no guarantee and everyone else has been making more than me ( we are talking tens and tens of thousands)and doing much much less; I was so livid I was ready to storm out; funny enough I just got approached for another job the pay is less but the work is less too; I can get paid more if I work more hours
only thing is I dont really want to start a new job with a new husband and new life, too many adjustments; I was so angry I cut out a lot of work I used to do; my boss has been ringing me to "talk about issues" whoa, he has issues with me? I have been the one getting screwed over, hello
I am so tempted to leave in huff; but then people ask for references; its so unfair; I was discrimanted against; I can easily take the less paying job but the wedding is so expensive, I can use the funds suck it up and wait til its over; or I can leave, have bad reference, do something else but more free time; plus, plus he gave me much more workload one month before and after my wedding–he just strained my weddings plans and my first month of marriage; I dont see anything else with the same schedule; I gave him the courtesy of a leave 6 months and he takes advantage of it getting the most work out of me–two people have already left; but finding out I’ve been paid lowest, plus well below minimum takes the cake and is the straw that broke the camel’s back; he keeps calling to talk about my behavior and my continued employment, say what??? they are screwing me over and now he has issues with me????there was no way I could have talked last week I was just so angry, let it go let it go, every time I let things go I get punched in the face with more unfair things at work I will be talking to him tomorrow
I was so angry last week I couldnt talk to my boss I was so livid he would be one less worker if I spoke to him and I need the money for the wedding; hmm, what to do what to do; a colleague says I can negotiate just be calm and professional about it; at this point I dont think they deserve my services
and wedding planning is supposed to be a happy time too; sorry bee, just venting
Post # 3
Have you asked for a raise from your boss? I read once that men are much more likely to ask for a raise, which accounts for a surprising percentage of the gender difference in compensation.
That jibes with my expericen working as a manager. The men frequently ask for raises, whereas I have never been approached for a raise from a female employee. But when I bring it up, it becomes clear that it has been on their minds.
I hope the conversation tomorrow goes well – good luck!!
Post # 4
First, do you know for a fact you are paid less? Did your friend / former coworker know for a fact / have proof, or was she speculating? Are there other reasons you would have been offered less to start (less experience / education)? If you start getting paid less, you will take at least a couple (or more) years to catch up in pay.
Also, did you tell your boss that you felt the workload was unfair? Maybe he gave you the workload because he thought you could handle it and do a good job. Sometimes you get the most work when you’re the best worker.
And have you told your boss why you’re upset for getting paid less? As Mr Bee says, just ask for a raise.
As frustrated as you are, you can’t just stopped doing a good job at work. Well you can, but you shouldn’t.
And if you are that unhappy, take the new job. Yes you’re busy, but would you rather be busier planning a wedding and learning a new job OR would you rather be busy planning a wedding and hating your job? That’s the question you have to decide between.
Post # 5
You can’t get fired for asking for a raise – just have concrete examples of work you’ve been doing to justify it. You can also mention you ‘feel as though’ you’re paid below average in your industry. Don’t mention anything about the other job!
Post # 6
First I would say that you need to step back from the emotions of the situation. It’s great to vent here, but when you speak to your boss, do it in a very calm and collected manner.
Document EVERYTHING you speak about. I bet your boss is going to try and turn this in to a performance issue which is just a way to cover his/her tracks. I would also discuss the situation with a lawyer just to understand what the lay of the land is in your case…
Don’t be pushed around, and certainly don’t let emotion rule. Think it through and best if you do that with an objective party.
Post # 7
I remember a few months back when you had concerns about your position and you letting us know that your boss scheduled you double what you had requested and whatnot.
I agree with doctorgirl, document EVERYTHING and stay professional and calm.
I think when you speak with your boss let him know that you would like to STAY where you are but have been given other offers and you are concerned about what incentive is there if you stay. Can they offer a raise and promise to be more consistent in quarterly reviews? Don’t say that you will leave if they can’t give you less hours/more pay/equal respect but do let them know that other offers are out there.
Post # 8
yep, I know for a fact, I’m getting defintiely getting paid less, my colleague got 145,000; another colleague got 180,000 all from the horses mouth–plus, the boss told them not to tell anybody; I am getting paid 120,000; far below standard which is 145,000 living in the most expensive city in the world; yes I asked for an increase they said it wasn’t possible; I asked them to match my last salary which was 145,000 they said not possible; I asked for a guarantee they said no budget, no budget–yet everyone else has a guarantee; I asked for more CME funds; no budget no budget; everything is a no, no, no; hmm, yet someone else got paid higher with less work; hmmm, do the math; ok I accepted it it was easier than my last job; then I find out there was a budget after all, just not for me!
not only that I’m doing more work than ever and my pay suddenly dropped by one half for 8 months, so they are making up for the difference–which means no matter how hard I work there is now no incentive; I smell a fish; I asked around looks like I’m the only one affected
my fiance wants to stay here a few months so we can adjust before I move to England but I cannot see myself working there any longer; I can work less give them what they pay for, ask for an increase; or look for a new job and cut my losses quickly and worry about bad references; it’s a no win situation no matter what I do
thanks for letting me vent bee
hey doctorgirl; yeah that’s what my friend told me, I need to stay calm and collected when I speak to him; right now I am very emotional which is why I couldn’t talk to him for a week; I would have blown my top off; some colleagues said I can sue for discrimination; but I would never want to get sued myself; too much negative energy; one of my secretaries spoke up for me, he was saying he could get his work done he’s here til 8pm; she said well she’s getting married and has a lot going on and wants to be with her spouse, he then looked shamefaced about the schedule he gave me–that’s another issue I’ll be taking up, 9 docs in the house and I have to be on call one month before and one month after; plus every other month since this year
sorry long vent
Post # 9
I have a friend in the same position, she found out a fellow employee who has no college education and is doing a similar position but less work is getting paid about $5k more than her(not as much as what it seems like you are finding out, but still a bummer!). with all the compensation privacy agreements and such its hard to say "hey i know i’m getting screwed here!" without giving the other person up. Being overworked and underpaid has to be one of the worst feelings ever! She is doing the same, looking for another job and says if it pays the same thats fine as long as it is paying correctly for the amount of work required. The reference situation is tough too!
Follow your gut, good luck to you!
Post # 10
You say you were just approached by another job, that’s great. You now have leverage in negotiations! During your "discussion," mention the fact that you are a hot commodity, but would really rather remain loyal. Ask your boss what he can offer to get you to stay. Don’t be too specific about what you want. Let him make the first offer, even if it means sitting awkwardly in silence for a minute. The less talking you do, the more he has to think on his feet. I understand your pain. I just switched careers and took a $16,000 pay cut, so I know where you’re coming from!
Post # 11
I agree with teamzeewagen. Document everything, stay calm, and when you ask for a raise, mention that you’ve been approached with another offer. Tell him that you feel you are not currently being fairly compensated for the amount of work you do, but that you like your job and coworkers. Tell him to make you an offer.
Post # 12
I think you know what you want to do, and you’re just thinking about the pros and cons. Document everything, and ask for a raise in a calm manner. If you’re that unhappy, you should consider taking the other job. Getting paid less for a job you enjoy is FAR better than getting paid more for a job you’re resentful of.