Post # 16
Holy cow, you guys are fast!
Thank you for all your comments. I’m going to meet with my female colleague (the original poster) later today to discuss this.
I did screenshot all the comments so that if they are deleted for whatever reason.
To answer LilliV
, I do not know if he expresses these views to his students. I have interacted with John only a few (3-5) times at conferences or workshops. He was civil then, but obviously these comments have affected my opinion of him. I don’t think his students can see them unless they are friends with my female colleague, but I also don’t have a class roster and Friends list. I’m more concerned that these views are being expressed by a male in a male-dominated field. (My department breakdown is about 70-30 male-to-female, but average is closer to 80-20.)
I do understand that this may not be directly tied to my university policy, as I wouldn’t be reporting it to my university, but I think our university training has made me more “aware” of what to do should I see this.
Thank you to those who suggested sending this to his university’s Title IX office. That was part of the confusion in what to do- as in who should we even go to. We’ll have to find his Title IX contact info.
Post # 17
I’d report him!
I think it’s standard across the board that university employees are told that all their behaviour reflects on the university and are held to a higher expectation of conducting themselves. I know I signed something just as a box office employee of the university 10 years ago that my actions on social media and off campus are considered along side my actions at work for keeping my position.
Post # 18
I would screenshot everything and report him. It is my opinion that he should be fired for these disgusting comments, especially given where he works. However, that may not be the consequence here. He may just get a warning. He may have to undergo additional training. He may not get told anything, but at the very least there is a record that he feels this way if, God forbid, he actually does something outside of social media. I think it would be morally wrong to NOT report it, not the other way around.
Post # 19
I’d also like to comment to those who suggested creating a paper trail even if this incident doesn’t warrent actions: I completely agree.
My biggest worry is that these views, even if expressed through social media now, may affect his workplace in the future. I don’t want something to happen years down the road if it could have been prevented.
Post # 20
I would make it viral so that the university had to take public action against him to avoid a PR nightmare, but that’s me and I’m more than a little petty.
Post # 21
Unfortunately, even if it is public, my guess is that the university will most likely not take action against him, just based on other stories I have seen play out at different universities.
For an example, look at what happened with regards to T. Florian Jaeger at the University of Rochester. He was cleared. Ridiculous.
However I do agree with OP that there is value in creating a paper trail.
Post # 22
it’s absurd that people are claiming this attitude, unless explicitly expressed to a student, doesn’t impact students.
these attitudes do not need to be expressed to be implemented.
REPORT HIM. They won’t fire him. But when some poor student is harassed by him or given a poor grade for being a “hoe”, and they will be, at least there will be context.
Post # 23
Absolutely report it. Employers can, and should, hold employees accountable for what they say on social media when it relates to employment or issues that could come up in their employment, such as sexual harassment.
Also, this guy is an idiot who should have to take a class in constitutional law, because the 5th Amendment applies to criminal prosecutions only.
Post # 24
My company has the same policies & training, and I think you should report it. It’s important for everyone to keep in mind that what you say on social media is still part of your “brand” and represents your employer. It’s always difficult to know where to draw the line, but his comments were way out of line and definitely speak volumes about his character.
Post # 25
try calling the title xi officer in his university and ask for advice. Screenshot of what he said.
Post # 26
During the Emily Doe/Stanford rape case, there was a guy who made similar comments about how Emily Doe was asking for it, she shouldn’t have gotten so drunk that she couldn’t take care of herself, and that by being passed out on the ground she was “offering herself up” to any guy who walked by, and why should poor Brock Turner’s life be ruined just because *she* was so drunk and stupid?
I can’t remember the specifics, but I believe he was an x-ray technician at a hospital affiliated with a state university. People screenshot the comments and flooded the hospital and university inboxes with complaints about this man. Yes, he wrote this on his time, but he listed his employer on his social media page, and he potentially works with young women in a health field and feels these young women don’t have sovereignty over their own bodies. This was problematic in many’s eyes. I do believe the hospital/university issued a formal statement saying they had terminated this man.
Some thought this was unfair, but I was not one of them. In my opinion, you want to go on record as a rape apologist, you can live with the consequences. I’d screenshot the comment and forward it if it were me.
Post # 27
the mere fact that he thinks women dressing “provocatively” (what the fuck does that even mean?) makes me severely question his ability to successfully teach female students. God forbid a young woman take his class wearing cutoff shorts and a low cut top—he’s basically saying that if he were to rape someone, it’d be HER fault for “harassing” him. This makes my skin crawl.
REPORT HIS ASS.
Post # 28
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I realize I’m about to probably be bludgeoned to death, but my question is this: how can an unseemly opinion on social media be considered sexual assault, or any assault at all? Truthfully, it can’t. Assault means a physical attack. Your post says that you’re encouraged to report those things – not someone’s statements on social media. I would not report. He has not actually done anything malicious. You can hate the guy for his views, but he’s allowed to have shitty views.
Post # 29
yes but that is the difference between freedoms of speech and freedom from consequences. Your employer absolutely has the right to fire you if you make your views known and the don’t want those to represent them– you can say in a public blog or interview that you think pedophilia should be legal or that inter racial marriage is disgusting – etc and they certainly can fire you.
Post # 30
Freedom of Speech just means that the government cannot lock you up for your opinion (as oppose to say Russia, like Pussy Riot being imprisoned).