Should I return my ring? Can't see the arrows in my "True Hearts" Diamond

posted 12 months ago in Rings
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  • Post # 2
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    Bumble bee

    I see  arrows. That contrast is the only difference  in cuts, really. 

    Post # 3
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    Newbee
    • Wedding: October 2011

    Here’s a trick! Stand by a window and then with your non-ring hand (presumably your right hand), make an “o” using all of your fingers- like half of a set of pretend binoculars. Hover the “o” over your diamond and the arrows will stand out really clearly! I love doing this with mine, and it’s the best view I get of the arrows in my stone. Let us know if this helps!

    Post # 4
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: November 2020

    The “true hearts” line is over priced for what it is.  JA is a drop shipper, meaning they have access to the same diamonds that all other drop shoppers have.  They just decide certain diamonds out of the virtual inventory fit  the criteria to be called True Hearts.  It’s not like JA actually hand-crafting these diamonds themselves.  Same thing with the Blue Nile Astor line.  What lab graded the diamond?  What are the measurements of the diamond (table %, depth %, crown angle, pavilion angle)?

    Post # 5
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    Honey bee

    I’m with you, I couldn’t tell the difference between my I/SI2 and a F/G diamond with better clarity.  I’m just not that sensitive to it.

    I have had my ring for almost 1.5 years and I have no regrets about going down a bit in quality to get the size that I wanted within our budget.

    Post # 8
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: November 2020

    The numbers do look good.  It is easier to see arrows through a camera because it makes the whole diamond magnified, but I can still see arrows on mine without a camera.  The arrows are usually either medium-grey or lighting up with color.  They’re not going to look dark grey like they do in the picture you took in real life (and I don’t think it would be a good thing if they did).  It sounds like you have a really well cut diamond.  If you can’t see the difference in color, I’d go down in color and up in size if I were you.  I wouldn’t go down in clarity.  I feel like SI1 is the absolute lowest you can go without the clarity causing visible issues (and often times there will be issues already in SI1) unless you find some unicorn SI2.  I wouldn’t want to get a worse cut, either, but you can find a similarly cut diamond without the “true hearts” up charge. 

    Post # 9
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    Newbee
    • Wedding: October 2011

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    alicekimmy :  okay, hopefully it helps! With mine, the arrows will actually glow bright white with this trick, not black/dark. But the contrast is definitely there 🙂

    Post # 10
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: April 2018

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    alicekimmy :  Congratulations!  Did your Fiance pay for the ring himself?   What would be your reason for returning, other than value for money? 

    If value for money is the only reason and your Fiance paid for the ring himself, I personally wouldn’t return it.  He selected this for you and it sounds like the only thing you don’t love is the price tag.  An engagement ring is (hopefully) a once in a lifetime purchase, I don’t think it’s worth potentially upsetting him and tarnishing that memory, for the sake of a few $$.  It’s a gorgeous ring.

    If you hated the style or something and were upset about the idea of having to wear it every day, then that would be different.. 

    Post # 11
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    Blushing bee
    • Wedding: April 2002

    The diamond is beautiful and specs are good, you can see the arrows. Your boyfriend went through a lot of trouble to get you the best diamond he could and I would never ask he return it for something else. If he was fine with what he spent on it, then I would let it go. Let him feel good and confident in his choice. Colorless diamonds always have that grayish/silverish color you talked about, that is how you can really tell a colorless diamond apart from a near colorless one.

    Post # 12
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    Buzzing bee

    It’s a lovely diamond and he’s proud of his purchase.  Unless this has thrown the two of you into a financial crisis I would not comment on the cost at all nor ask him to exchange.  Just thank him for the effort he put into choosing a ring for you.  If this were an aesthetic thing and the ring was absolutely not your taste and you disliked the idea of wearing it for the rest of your life, this would be a different conversation going on this thread.  But that’s not the concern as you stated it.  You were willing to downgrade the stone and keep the same style, so style doesn’t seem to be the issue.  Keep it and enjoy your engagement.  This isn’t worth killing his engagement buzz over.  His feelings here matter too.  But that’s just my two cents.  And well pick your battles.  You’ve got a lot of negotiations and compromising ahead as you move forward with wedding planning.  Maybe this isn’t something worth bringing to a head since I see only hurt feelings resulting from it.  And maybe that’s not the tone to start wedding planning with?

    Post # 13
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: November 2020

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    lyn47 :  near colorless look grey/silver, too.  

    Post # 14
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    Bee Keeper

    The photo clearly shows the arrows. ?? The hearts are on the other side and less visible when the stone is set. To really evaluate a diamond you have to see it in various lighting conditions, not just a glance at a friends ring for comparison while you’re out to dinner. 

    He got you a beautiful ring and put a lot of thought into it. Dont worry, be happy, it’s a nice problem to have.

    Just my opinion, ymmv.

     

    Post # 15
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    Bumble bee

    I have a colourless diamond and it looks grey in certain light as well. In regards to clarity, mine is SI2 and my fiancée’s is VVS1 and looking at them side by side you can’t tell a difference. I think clarity is really overhyped tbh. The only difference between them is her’s is a G colour and mine is D, and you can notice that slightly when put side by side, but that’s it. If both diamonds have an excellent cut and the colour and inclusion grades aren’t too low you’re not going to see much difference between them in my experience. Paying for a flawless colourless diamond is more for peace of mind than anything else, cut is the most important thing and you can clearly see arrows and the measurements stack up, so you’ve got an excellent cut diamond. 

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