(Closed) Should people be paid for donating bodily fluids or organs?

posted 7 years ago in The Lounge
  • poll: People should be paid for donating

    Nothing

    All of the below

    Blood

    Specific blood products - eg. plasma

    Sperm

    Eggs

    A kidney

    Hair

  • Post # 47
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    Bumble Beekeeper
    • Wedding: July 2013 - UK

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    @minted:  Actually, it’s funny, I just looked it up online and worked it out before I read your response. I’ve been in favour of an opt out system for years.

    I was initially a little perplexed about this “opposition by religious groups”, I must confess… especially since I’m fairly sure that the C of E actually recommended an opt-out organ donation process as part of it’s review of medical ethics during the 1990s, but I could be wrong.

    I can, however, say for certainty that opposition to this plan is hardly mainstream!

    Post # 48
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    Blushing bee

    Paying for organs???

    It is illegal here in Australia.
    Wouldn’t that kindof encourage oragan trafficing??? I mean its kind of similar concept..but this would be legal.

    I do understand hoping the pain someone goes through when they have a serious condition that needs transplaint and they are waiting for a donor who will match.

    BUT

    Firstly, if there is paymnent attached to body parts, people in poorer parts of the world would be exploited. It would just turn into a market.Those poor people may line up to sell their organs not because they want to but to afford their basic needs. And this would increase, people forcing children to get their kidneys removed so they can get a bit money and things like that. I have heard from actual people selling body parts to provide education to their kids

    #Secondly, certain things like placenta, blood and hair can be given away but if it involves something more like a kidney or a lungs…then who do you pay?? the doner would be dead anyways????

    And I just find the concept of selling human body partys really weird. I can’t explain why, but I just do. Maybe because it kind of dehumanies the whole concept?? I dont know.

     

    Post # 50
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    Blushing bee

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    @AB Bride:  Oh. I see what you mean. I saw the title and assumed the title to include all organs, including vital organs.

    In that case, if there should be strict laws on precisly what is being sold and how may times a doner can provide certain parts. (

    . Recieveing payment for blood transusion(or something similar…basically anything that the body can regenerate within a short period of time) or egg donation (something that is abusndant) may be justified if its saving a life. But I still feel queezy about selling kidney and anything that is gone once it is removed.

    Post # 52
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    Newbee
    • Wedding: October 2008

    I think compensation should depend on the invasiveness of the donation process.  It is minimaly invasive to donate blood, plasma, sperm or hair, so I don’t think compensation is appropriate in those cases.  However, egg and kidney donation can be very invasive procedures, so I think it’s only fair for donors to be compensated for their trouble and for dealing with the potential risks associated with those procedures.

     

    Post # 53
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: October 2014

    Disregarding the corruption and such which could result, lets assume a nice world where people don;t end up in some kind of horror flick or farming out their childrens organs for money:

    Eggs – absolutely. Potential risks deserve adequate compensation.

    Sperm, blood, plasma – yes, but only in the form of small compensation for time/travel. This wouldn’t be required in some places, but I live in rural Australia and where I grew up the nearest blood bank was an hour away and only opened between 10am-4pm, so my mother was only able to go when we were all in school at once, and if she could afford the fuel. She still racked up 400 donations though – amazing woman! For me to donate now, our clinic is open 9am-4pm and I would have to get away from work to do it, which I just can’t do. Obviously, this stems from living in a tiny community in a spread area though! I will do it when I am a STHM and I have the time available!

    Hair – no, I don’t get it, you either want to lop it off or you don’t. Plus, it doesn’t save lives, so I think it would be stupid. (never mind hair farms in the asia pacific :S)

    Kidney – Im torn, I don’t know what to make of this, but I would have to say no just because it’s the only one that is very finite!

    Post # 54
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: April 2013

    Not for a kidney or blood or anything needed in order to survive. It’d make the difference between rich and poor even bigger.

    Yes for “luxury” like eggs (because getting IVF is optional and not needed to save your life) or hair (because nobody dies from being bald).

     

    Post # 55
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: January 1994

    I only agree with payment for non-necessary things, like sperm and eggs. Things to sustain life should not require payment. Otherwise, only those with the most money will be able to afford life saving treatments, such as transplant.

    Post # 56
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    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: December 2011

    If we could buy my dad a kidney,  we would in a heartbeat. But I don’t think it would be a good thing. I donate blood regularly,  have done platelets and plasma but at the blood center,  not a pay for plasma place and don’t think they should. You choose to donate it, no one is forcing you, and paying for it is asking for a host of corruption. 

     

    My dad was  just at a dialysis patient and medical professionals convention and he was asking one of the PAC members about the different legislation they are working on related to organ transplant and such and the PAC guy just laughed when ny dad asked about trying to get any kind of opt out for donation in the US. That isnt even close to on their radar and this was the biggest lobby group related to this issue  I’m a nurse and work with people (medical profesionals!) who are skeeved by the idea of post mortem organ donation,  what hope do we have for The general public? 

     

    Another issue is there is a huge portion of people who need kidney transplants who need them because they already couldn’t pay for medical treatment. Uncontrolled diabetes is hell on kidneys and many many dialysis patients are there because they couldn’t or wouldn’t control their underlying medical conditions. So people who can’t afford insulin have to cover the cost of organs too? Because someone has to pay for this money to pay donors,  hospitals aren’t going to eat that cost . It will get passed to recipients and part of qualifying for transplant in the states is that you have to be able to pay for post transplant meds and if hospitals had to pay the donors,  recipients would have to show that too. It would breed classism and further divided rich/not. 

     

    Post # 57
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: March 2013

    Mmm i think things likr egg donatiin should be compensated. It has a lot of side effects and is a lot physically harder than  sperm donation. Also without compensation the numbers of people willing to do it are greaglt decreased. I dont thjnk major organs should b3 for sale tjough. Ach i dint know!

    Where i live in mexico, it seems if you use blood you have to then replace it. So people get their friends and family to ckme jn an d donate blood when theyre in hospital. I always thought that was an interesting system

    Post # 59
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    Sugar bee
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    @ladyamalthea:  I hope I didn’t imply that I think all women who do it are desperate! I just  think desperate women are less likely to make sure they know all the risks  involved, which apparently are less than I thought. I think egg donation can be  a really beautiful thing to do, but it’s a very personal choice, and my primary  reasons for not wanting to do it myself are similar to yours 🙂

    We are on the same page!

    Post # 60
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: November 2015

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    @chasesgirl:  +1 I agree with you that we should be educating the general population about how amazing being an organ donor can be and that a lot of the myths (like an ER doctor letting you die to get your organs) are false. And I think we need to do a better job at getting people to take their diagnoses, for things like diabetes, more seriously – as well as offering the proper support and care to help them take care of themselves.

    And for the record, I want to say that I’m so sorry about your dad and I hope he finds his match soon! Have you guys tried facebook or anything? That’s one of the reasons my sister found out about the boy she donated to.

    Post # 61
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: June 2013

    Some things yes, some things no….There should be 2 options – you can chose to donate or chose to sell. Getting paid to give your hair to provide wigs to cancer patients – NO. But getting paid to give your hair so the rich people can change out wigs all the time just because they want to… yes.The only thing i’d say no to is blood and even then i’m fine with giving out small gift cards or something as an incentive. Sometimes little incentives is the only thing that gets enough people to donate.  But things that cause pain – you should be paid for that IF you chose… bone marrow – absolutely…. eggs – absolutely.

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