Post # 47
@TattedNYBride: Ah, I see…
So if she can’t quit smoking, she should get an abortion instead?
Or maybe pregnant women should be sent to gulags where they are watched 24/7, and every activity they do can be examined by medical professionals?
Maybe, like PP suggested, there should be separate laws for pregnant women.
Where do you fancy trying to draw that line?
Post # 48
@Rachel631: if a woman really wanted to quit, she would. My mother smoked a pack a day, and the minute she found out she was pregnant with any of us three kids, she stopped. Same with drinking and she was an alcoholic until I was almost 16 and she finally quit that too. I’m not saying it doesn’t suck to quit or that it isn’t hard, but this woman doesn’t even seem to be trying. do I think we should lock all pregnant women up? Maybe send them to rehab in certain cases, or fine them. Some way to encourage healthy behavior.
Post # 49
One of my cousins smoked through both of her pregnancies. Drove me absolutely crazy, and I was embarrassed to be seen with her, but her doctor told her that quitting cold turkey would be worse for the baby. Not sure if I believe that or not, but both babies were born relatively healthy. The second one had some breathing issues, but apparently that was unrelated to the smoking. Again… not sure if I believe that or not.
That all being said, it wasn’t my place to tell her what I’m sure many people already told her about smoking and pregnancy. As for the junk food? When I was pregnant, and throwing up non-stop, the only thing I wanted to eat was McDonald’s when I ever actually had an appetite. Any food is better for the baby than no food.
Post # 50
@FutureDrAtkins: my cousins doctor told her the same thing. She didn’t know she was pregnant until few months in as it was a surprise pregnancy. Her doctor told her not to quit cold turkey as it would put stress on the baby and to just cut back if she could. I respected her doctors advice and so did she. I don’t agree with smoking at all but don’t judge cause I have no idea what that kind of addiction is like. Unfortunate for the child though 🙁 although she was born happy and health and 10 pounda haha
Post # 51
In this day and age it’s pretty awful to smoke while pregnant knowing the effects.
My grandmother smoked with all 5 of her children (this was the 50s), but at least they all turned out fine (no major problems). My dad has never had any health issues or learning/developmental disabilities.
People do all sorts of negative things to themselves during pregnancy (binge drinking, drugs, etc) unfortunately. There’s nothing we can do about it for the most part.
I don’t think there should be any laws for pregnant women…eeek. Can’t believe someone would suggest that!
As others have said, the fast food isn’t really a problem in the first trimester because often times there are only certain foods that sound appealing and people can actually keep down. That could very well be the issue.
Post # 52
@Shosha1: maybe this is a stupid question. If so, I would love to be educated on this. A fetus in utero is receiving oxygen through the umbilical cord, through the mother’s blood. How does the smoke affect their breathing? Their lungs are never used until after they are born, so theoretically I don’t see how the smoke can cause breathing problems if it never enters the fetuses lungs? Given, if the mother/parents smoke around the child i.e. in the house then yes, that would have an affect on their breathing. But if the child is not actually exposed to the smoke how can that affect their breathing?
Post # 53
my personal opinion…
if a woman can’t see the difference in doing what she wants with her body and doing THE RIGHT thing while she’s carrying a child and they share the body then she shouldn’t have kids because that’s straight up selfish.. Feminist or not doesn’t make being selfish okay or respectable.
Post # 54
@TattedNYBride: My problem is that women are not the property of the state. People can be are quick to say it’s a woman’s body when she is deciding whether or not to have an aborton… until she decides to keep the kid, and then it’s a free for all.
I’m all for choice… but some of the answers on this thread are perilously close to saying “if they choose to abort, that’s cool, but if they can’t act in a way I think proper whilst pregnant, they should either abort or suffer the legal consequences”. It’s a bit like saying “clearly, abortion was the right choice. It’s only a choice if your choose the option I approve of. If you choose the option I don’t like, you should suffer the consequences.”
That’s not a choice, and I’m not cool with it.
I can remember being in the army and talking about pregnancy with the soldiers. They were all so sick of being treated like pregnancy was a disease. It doesn’t make you less of a person… and it shouldn’t take away your rights.
That’s not to say that I think pregnant women should be given a pack and told to light up. But I do think that there’s a lot of hypocrisy here, in society in general.
Post # 55
@BushelAndAPeck: Cigarettes contain so many dangerous chemicals that are absorbed into our blood stream. This pollutes the fetuses only oxygen source.
Post # 56
I would be annoyed beyond words as well! So gross and just stupid.
Post # 57
I had a job where the head of HR would stand outside our office several times a day and smoke while pregnant. I thought it just looked super trashy….
Post # 58
@Laurenskii: eew… poor baby!
Post # 59
Random: this whole “Gosh, why are we so judgemental & don’t let people make whatever choices they make because who are we to judge. Is their life. Blah blah..” is the easiest way to anarchy. Because, who the f*ck cares, right? It’s not a feminist issue. Its a universal ‘responsible adult’ issue.
I wish people cared more.
On to the point:
@Laurenskii: Bite your tongue & leave it alone because this woman clearly has got it all under control. Her kid will experience first hand the aftermath of her smoking. No need aggravating yourself hon.
Post # 60
@Laurenskii: Fun fact: In Marin County (the land directly across the golden gate bridge from San Francisco) it is actually considered child abuse to smoke inside around a child. It’s not going so far as to ban pregnant women from smoking…though honestly I think cigarettes should be illegal anyway, given the billions upon billions they cost all of us in increased health premiums and the toxic effect they have on everyone around the smokers. If cigarettes were developed today, they never would have been legalized in the form we know them as today.
Post # 61
My grandmother smoked through all SIX of her pregnancies, and all through her adult life. Her six boys (my dad and uncles) all turned out healthy and successful. They’re bankers, lawyers, etc. This was in the 50’s and 60’s.
That being said, I would never smoke while pregnant and would hate to watch someone else do sot. But I’d also hate watching someone smoke heavily around their children or feed them a shit load of processed/fast food. But we can’t make every thing illegal that we don’t like or know is harmful.