(Closed) Fast Food Workers and the Slow Death of Hard Work

posted 7 years ago in The Lounge
Post # 183
854 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: October 2013

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@AlwaysSunny:  I sypathize with people who are overeducated for their job but I feel like this is another “we’re not the problem” excuse. Why would you choose to invest time and money into a degree that is not employable? There are lots of available jobs, just not jobs in every field and location one may want to work.

My Fiance has a Masters Degree in Special Education but there are currently no jobs in his field, at least where we live, and you need a MA to teach in Oregon. There WERE teaching jobs back in the 1990s and 2000s when teaching jobs were plentiful and school closures were unheard of but things changed a lot in the past few years here. You know, we don’t value education in this country.

No one I know who’s working in positions beneath their education did it intentionally. 

Post # 184
7547 posts
Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: January 2013

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@CARA1978:  I know things are rough in Oregon. The teacher suplus started making news about 7 years ago. At that time a few of my friends re-routed to psychology or nursing. Did he get his master’s pre-2005? 

Of course no one intends to be unemployed or underemployed. What I was saying is that we should make educated decisions about our careers. I think a lot of this stems from the “follow your heart” rhetoric that’s preached in schools. We should take ownership over our choices and think about demand, location, outlook, etc. 

If you’re interested, there are a lot of oppurtunities for teachers abroad. Best of luck. 

Post # 185
854 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: October 2013

@AlwaysSunny:  He is looking overseas but there are a few factors that may not make it possible for us, especially since most of the jobs are in areas that would not be good for my health. He could teach in Dubai but it would be miserable for me (healthwise). Northern EU would be great but they have enough teachers of their own. I don’t remember when he said he got his MA but I think it was pre 2005.  He’s 53 and though he looks about 10 years his junior, age is a factor when it comes to hiring. He’s looking into other options other than teaching.

I don’t believe in the “follow your heart” rhetoric but you must also study what you’re capable of studying.  Yes, STEM careers are hot right now but not everyone can study in the STEM field…or should. 

It’s a shame that the humanitarian industries are poo-pooed and making money should be the only goal.  He (FI) wasn’t trying to get rich, just have a stable career in something he actually cared about. 


Post # 186
5867 posts
Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: April 2013

Well, if this isn’t a touchy political conversation, I don’t know what is!  I’m sure I”ll regret this but…

I geneally agree with the article’s point (but not it’s condescending tone).  It’s not your employers job to ensure that you earn enough to meet your spending needs.  It’s simply not.  Your employers job is to pay you what the market demands for a particular job and skill set.  If you don’t like it, your option is to find another employer or start making money on your own.

Keep in mind that these increases in wages for menial jobs is not free.  It comes at a cost, most likely in fewer services and jobs available, and in a higher cost of living for all.  The reality you have to face is choosing between these two options, you can’t have it all.  All that said, I do appreciate that these workers have the right to unionize and can do so if they feel it’s in their best interest.

Obviously, this is a political conversation, so there is no right answer.  We all have different world views, different views of human nature, and different ideas about what’s going to get us to our desired end state.

Post # 187
160 posts
Blushing bee
  • Wedding: February 2014

Has anyone read “Nickel &  Dimed?” It’s a brillant read and offers a lot of insights on the situation.  


I’m not going to post my opinion on this article, but I will say that I think it is BANANAS that you can make more on welfare and food stamps than at a minimum wage job. THAT is not ok.






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