Post # 16
LilliV : Totally. Not to mention I don’t think they factor in their costs as a business would normally do. Overall the way people talk about success just seems shady. I also have just seen to many people overinflate what they do. So much #ladyboss, #entrepreneur. I don’t mind people wanting alternate sources of income, the way they talk about it is just eyerolly.
Post # 17
Yeah, they are really annoying. I have a facebook friend who would aggressively promote this vitamin/shake product (Le-Vel) and post all these before/after shots of herself, claiming the product made her look so much younger, thinner, etc. To me, it just looked like the “after” picture had better lighting.
She would also post all the things she supposedly won from the company for being a top seller: cars, vacations, bonuses and try to get people to sign up to sell on her team. She got pretty annoying with it and started targeting the moms on her friend list asking them why they would spend all their time away from their children in an office when they could make buck staying at home and selling her product — pretty much calling them neglectful, bad moms for having real jobs.
Well, some months went by and she goes pretty quiet and then suddenly resurfaces selling a stain remover! Lord. That lasted for a few months.
Last I heard she works in a candy store now, but still posts about what an amazing mom she is all the time (even though she no longer works from home and, according to her previous assertions, is neglecting her kids).
I also have a friend who blasts facebook with “Monat Testimonies.” Blech.
And don’t get me started on the Beach Body posts!
Post # 18
I used to work at the corporate office of an MLM company and it was the biggest scam. Sometimes I felt bad, but the people who sold it were generally sketchy anyway. The one I worked for didn’t require the sellers to buy the inventory. They were just middle men with their own websites and the customers were really buying from corporate. Anytime I see someone I know start selling for an MLM, I immediately think they’re dumb.
Post # 19
anonbee123123 : 100%. The shit talking drives me nuts. So many of the posts are guilt trip-y and manipulate and make them sound downright ignorant. I’ve seen some where they say buy with me rather than giving your money to corporate CEOs. You’re going to tell me none of these companies have CEOs and they don’t make a dime.
Post # 20
kiram : LOL yeah I hate them. I’m always torn on the huns (thank you Sansa85 : for reminding me of that LOL), because I feel bad for them that they were probably “tricked” into it, and didn’t realize fully what they were getting in to, but then I don’t because they CHOSE this “easy” job instead of getting a real one, and they continue to choose to exploit friends and family.
But as a side note, i remember luluaroe (leggings) was one of the worst companies for this. Sales folk had to pay $5k to get into the company, and then they couldn’t order specific patterns – they just ordered a box/set amount from the warehouse, and they were sent random stuff and had to sell if. So if in their order they got items that didnt sell well, theyd have to order more. But in that order, maybe they got 20 pairs of some fugly patterns that again wouldn’t sell, so theyd get more, etc etc. Now theyre stuck with 100 pairs of bum inventory that theyve already paid for.
I also hate (sorry to keep on ranting, I must be extra bitchy today LOL) how they say they MAKE $10k a week or whatever. No, they might SELL $10k a week, but they don’t get all of that. They get their shitty commission.
Post # 21
kiram : There’s literally only two products I buy…the eyeliner due to my allergy and a body wash for sensitive skin because it’s actually helpful surprisingly.
The rest is a no from me. I’m in a group with a specific skin condition and this B said I could cure it with Rodan and Fields. I was so upset. No you can’t cure it. I’ve been to like 3 specialists and 5 dermatologists. So….no.
I generally when looking for any product look at the ingredients and quantity compared to price and what active ingredients have been independently proven to work. Regardless of brand. But I look online and don’t ask the person selling until I actually want to buy otherwise its usually a sales pitch or bad info and I don’t want that.
I ordered this stupid soap bar from someone and asked if the smell was strong she said no barely smelled. I have a skin condition and should have known better..i get it and it smells so strongly of mens cologne I had to air that shit out. So now I never buy except the two products I actually like and not from her because F that.
Post # 22
mimivac : She would also post all the things she supposedly won from the company for being a top seller: cars, vacations, bonuses and try to get people to sign up to sell on her team.
This is also a thing – they use these as incentives, but they actually have great power to fuck you over AND ruin your credit. The cars, they basically just put a lease in your name, and if you meet $X sales that month, they cover the lease for that month. If you don’t, YOU are stuck with the $500 lease payment. So imagine that you had a shitty sales month, didn’t make much money and now you also have to cover this huge payment.
I think the cruises they still had to pay quite a bit, but I don’t remember the specifics.
Post # 23
- Wedding: April 2021 - City, State
I frequent the antimlm reddit a lot. The one that baffles me the most is pure romance, why would I buy a dildo from an aquaintance if you can do it a lot less awkwardly with better quality online discreetly.
My mother was an Arbonne lady, this was when she stayed at home before she went on and got a real job when I was in middle school. There is so much Arbonne bath stuff at her house that went unselled.
Post # 24
jellybellynelly : This is also a thing – they use these as incentives, but they actually have great power to fuck you over AND ruin your credit. The cars, they basically just put a lease in your name,
Oh wow. I had no idea. That is f’ed up. This whole discussion made me think of my first boyfriend when I was 21. He was 30 and an engineer, but also selling Amway. I remember their really shitty pots and pans he always tried to get me to buy. His mom sold Avon. I just googled it and Amway was founded by Betsy DeVos’s father, who made a killing from it and became one of the richest people in the world. Apparently, the company encourages its sellers to cut ties with friends and family who are criticial of Amway and to view Amway as family instead. Crazy.
In graduate school, I worked for a woman who sold Mary Kay. She had quit her job as a history professor to sell the stuff and seemed pretty successful (pink cadillacs were always in the driveway). I remember writing dozens of letters to her “team members” saying things like, “Is there any reason you wouldn’t be able to sell $xxx amount of Mary Kay this month?” She was a trip.
Post # 25
kiram : I also get irrationally irritated at MLM posts.
My cousins got involved and also tried to get me to do it and sucessfully got other family members and friends on social media to participate. It got to the point where i blocked their posts for a little while.
It’s not only the innocent lets catch up or hang out and then being roped into a pitch that gets me, but the constant posts about how “blessed and fortunate” they are now that they found this wonderful company/opportunity. Like i know its just trying to entice you, but it puts peoples way of life down. Like oh your life sucks because you work 9-5 for the man.
And then they just stop. They just stop posting about it. I’d really like to see someone come on social media and APOLOGIZE or admit they got into something that didnt turn out to be what they expected. Like you just took $500 from other friends and family to build your brand and …. now what?
Post # 26
jellybellynelly : LOLLLLLLL what?
Dying at that pic hahha
Post # 27
I cringe every time I see/hear one of them say “I’m an entrepreneur and a business owner” on social media. As a real business owner, who has to find $30k a month to pay employees, that’s laughable to compare selling diet shakes on instagram to being an actual business owner. You’re not a business owner, you’re a silly little girl who got tricked into buying merchandise that couldn’t be sold otherwise.
Post # 28
I also cannot stand MLM. Between ItWorks, Sengence (aka Lipsense), Younique, and Rodan & Fields, my Facebook and inbox was constantly flooded with ads, posts, and messages advertising products I never wanted. A friend of mine claimed she “makes so much extra side money” selling vitamins and shit. I just can’t fathom how that’s possible.
The most recent one that has hit me 3 times now since I’ve had a baby is the book parties through Usborne Books. 🤮I gave in and shopped once but refuse to again.
Post # 29
ladyspectrum : Honestly though the same could probably be said about just about all MLM products. Why should I buy $30 leggings through a friend when I can take my pick of literally thousands of other brands (WITH reviews) on Amazon for 1/2 the price? This isn’t the age of door-to-door salesmen anymore. Maybe back in the day when the elderly or SAHMs could seldom get out to shop in stores, bringing the product to the customer made sense…but nowadays I’m one click away from buying just about anything, from HUNDREDS of competing brands, all while multitasking. If I wanted to find a hair thickening product, I’d just google it…it’s not like Monat is the only product on the market.
Post # 30
Omg I’m so passionate about warning people about MLMs lol. They are so predatory. Preying on single moms, Stay-At-Home Mom and women that are already having financial difficulty.
I regularly frequent r/antimlm and it’s so cringy to see what some of these people do on social media.
They are always bashing people that have 9-5 jobs but then brag about “working from.anywhere” including on their vacations. Sorry hun but my 9-5 gives me paid vacation so I dont have to worry about work.while I’m away.
And like pp said those luxury cars they “give” you when you reach a certain rank is just a lease that if you dont keep your rank/sell enough product that month you are stick with the payment. The fuck?
You can look up any MLM’s income disclosure statement and it tells you how much their consultants are making and its pathetic. Literally 99% of them.are either making zero dollars or losing money
Sorry for my rant. Like I said I’m passionate lol