(Closed) So you want to be a wedding photographer

posted 7 years ago in Photos/Videos
Post # 3
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2012

@PizzutiStudios: lol 

•buy a tripod and use it when you don’t need to (you look so professional)

 

That’s pretty awesome. 

Post # 4
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2011

funny!! HAHA

Post # 5
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2009

LMAO! Ugh, I love every line 🙂 Here is another good one:

•finally get stood up for the last time for a session with a parakeet and decide you will collect a deposit for portrait sessions

Post # 6
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Bumble bee

That is great, and sadly we have all been through a few of those line items…haha.

 

I still like my post of “photography is not a profession” but many people failed to see the  humor in it.

Post # 7
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2009

hehe….I chuckled the whole way through 🙂

Post # 8
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: January 1991

Baha, that’s a funny thing to say to a photographer. So people just think the photog is being mean by keeping the pictures so long after the wedding? No… it’s because it takes tons of time to edit photos. I’m sure there are other things to do as well (I’m not a photog) but yea, that’s silly to think they only work two days a week.

My photog had to only accept 24 brides this year. Think of how many weekends that is to be working? Not to mention how many pictures she takes and edits ALL of them. She go so behind last year that she had to cut back just to have better service for her brides. AND she wants to still love her job instead of being resentful about it.

Post # 9
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Helper bee

That was freakin great.

Post # 10
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Worker bee

It seems that every other day there is a new webpage making fun of “how to become a wedding photographer” or think again if you want to become one.

I don’t see that in any other profession. I don’t see the tons of webpages saying “how to become a fire fighter/plumber/doctor”…

Wedding photographers really must hate competitions.. Or they are some really bitter wedding photographers out there.

Post # 11
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Bumble bee

@wanderer:  Well, it goes back to my “photography is not a profession” article.  There is no schooling or degree, license, or training required, anyone and everyone can do it…..and with the advent of semi-affordable gear and high unemployement, people ARE doing it, at all skill levels.

The problem is, the mass public is used to putting some degree of “trust” in professionals, think a  Doctor, a Plumber, or a Hairstylist,etc.  Many amateurs and hobbiests are calling themselves professionals and many of them are not very skilled.  People get taken advantage of, and you see it here often when people pay XYZ and get back a crap product.  I am not saying that all newcomers and hobbyists in the profession are bad, but many are.

It’s frustrating for professional photographers to see the mass public getting rooked like that, and it also gives the entire industry a bad name.

Post # 12
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2009

@wanderer: Here is a statistic for you: 

The number of people calling themselves professional photographers in the USA has more than tripled since 2007. In that same span people’s disposable income has fallen. So, yeah, do the math – and it’s kinda depressing.
It’s not that we don’t like compeition, it’s really along the lines of what USER just said. Too many moms with camera’s calling themselves photographers, charging nothing or close to it, and devaluing the industry to the point where real photographers can’t charge what they need to in order to make a living.

Post # 13
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: June 2010

You know, there is an awful lot of hostility in these posts. I think it might actually be a better strategy for the industry for you guys to acknowledge how many brides really DO want something closer to what a talented amateur or beginning pro is willing to offer — flexible packages, raw shots, simple and straightforward photography. We don’t all CARE or WANT you to spend 4 hours a week for a month in the studio editing the photos and then being bitter that you are not appreciated. Oh, and the dig at “moms” is not very nice either. It sounds like you’re scared of the competition or hostile toward women who are trying to start new careers.

I would respectfully suggest that if the public is not sufficiently appreciative of your work or grateful to you for your business model, then you might wish to consider adapting the business model. At any rate, the negativity and laughing at family photogs, etc, is a huge turnoff for me and I bet I am not alone. Just wanted to point out that forwarding these kinds of articles on a brides’ forum is not necessarily going to improve everyone’s attitude toward pro photogs as a group.

Post # 14
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2009

@snowflake119: You do realize I’m a woman right? You may be offended if you like, but I’m simply stating the facts, and moms tend to be attracted to it because they see the bulk of it, the editing, as something they can do at home while they take care of the kids. Again, it’s just an industry trend and a fact being stated.

If people want amateur work, then by all means, hire your cousin who never shot a wedding before but really loves photography. The only thing is, you shouldn’t come on this site afterwards and complain about all the missed shots or crappy quality photos, which more often than not is exactly what happens in those cases. I think those of us who hang out on these boards get extra frustrated and post things like this, because we have each read more than our share of that.

Post # 15
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Worker bee

Too many moms with camera’s calling themselves photographers, charging nothing or close to it, and devaluing the industry to the point where real photographers can’t charge what they need to in order to make a living.

I’m a believer of idea of “if you are good at what you do, people will come to you”. Sure, there are a lot more “photographers” and hence it affects the supply and demand curve and bring the prices down. But if you are good at what you do, people will pay your price. If the constant entry of new photographers are making brides go to them instead of you because they are cheaper than you, maybe that says something about your work.

I don’t see those high end good photographers complaining about new photographers taking their business. All I see are the middle/low ones complaining about them. Maybe they should try to improve their skill and bring their game up instead of complaining all day long. Maybe their work is not worth what they are charging to begin with and now it is catching up to them.

And yes, I don’t care if you need to charge X because you have insurance/studio/whatever. All I care is whether the price you charge is worth the work you are showing me. When I go to restaurants, they don’t tell me that they need to charge X because of permits/rent/or their avocado prices have gone up. They show me their price, if I don’t like it, I go elsewhere. That is the price you need to pay to stay in business.

To me as a customer, the most annoying thing is you trying to justify your fee to me.  Show me your work, and I’ll decide if what you are charging is worth it to me or not.

Post # 16
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2009

@wanderer: As for me personally, I’m almost completely booked for 2011, so I don’t feel the need to re-evaluate my work, my prices or how I do business. However, at the end of the day, this profession just doesn’t pay a ton and you have to love what you do to be able to live on this income full time. And yes, even those super-high-end photographers you speak of aren’t making as big a profit as you would think at the end of the day. I’m not permitted to put my starting price on this board, but suffice it to say, I’m in the mid-to-high price range for my area.

The price of no other wedding expense is as highly debated as photography, and that’s why photographers feel the need to justify their prices. The constant influx of people doing this for fun and marketing themselves as professionals makes brides wonder why the real professionals are charging so much and we are here to answer that question, nothing more. I don’t see why you take such offense to this, and you seem un-necssarily hostile over it.

Again, it all comes down to what we see on these threads. If you dont want us to sit here and justify our price, dont come on these boards and complain about the price of the photographer whose work you really love because you don’t understand why they charge so much. If it was common to go into a restaurant and complain about the price of a steak, saying well you only have to buy it and cook it for me, I’m sure restaurant owners would be posting threads justifying their prices too. Anyway, I think your tone is getting too heated for me, so this will be my last post on this thread.

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