(Closed) Soldering advice please! What did you do?

posted 6 years ago in Rings
  • poll: Did you solder?
    I soldered my rings together : (16 votes)
    40 %
    I kept them separate and there was damage : (4 votes)
    10 %
    I kept them separate and there was no damage : (20 votes)
    50 %
  • Post # 3
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    Buzzing bee

    i had my helzberg engagement ring solitaire and ring wrap soldered together because i thought i would like it better. well when i got pregnant w/ our first child…the ring wrap made the rings fit my fingers tightly so i got them unsoldered and the bottom of the solitaire ring came back semi warped and bumpy. i dont recomend soldering rings together because if you ever change your mind, they will get damaged in the unsoldering process.

    Post # 4
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    2577 posts
    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: June 2010

    I have my three rings soldered.

     

    Have never regretted it for a second. Two years on, all is fine 🙂

    Post # 5
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    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: January 2010

    Any two rings worn side by side will show wear, even it of the same metal. I have seen significant wear in as little as five years on some people’s rings even if the same metal, others may take longer. The wear is worse if there are diamonds against prongs, engraving, etc and less if is like two plain, smooth and flush dome or flat bands. My two trusted local jewelers – bench jewelers who see lots of damaged rings in for repair – are very pro soldering when more than one ring is worn together, and it is better to do them before there is wear that may weaken them, etc.

    I was resistant to solder for years until I got my most recent rings. They are 18k yellow and while smooth, are not flush. I baby my rings but after two weeks could already see where they were going to wear over the years since the brushed gold took on a shine where they rubbed against each other. These are finally my forever rings – I do not want them to wear from something that is preventable! I was resistant before as I figured I could wear just the band on low key days but in 2 1/2 years I never did this. If i am doing something risky for my ering, I want to take care of my band too…so I always wore “spares” I did not worry about anyway. 

    So I soldered them last week and LOVE it. The bonus of only worrying about one ring is great, too. And yes it is easily undoable – indeed mine are in with the jeweler to take apart and put together in a different configuration. If you go to my thread “ladies with soldered rings” you can see pics of how discreet the solder is. There should be no damage if you have a good bench, as they should use a solder with a lower melting point so there is no damage to rings once they melt solder and repolish.

    My rings are themselves not ones I would stack with others, since they themselves are stacking style, so I do not miss that flexibility though which others may. I have tree bark and stacking bands to wear when I do not want to wear my wedding set (at the gym, travelling, etc).

    If you do solder, remember they may fit tighter as one ring so you may need to resize.

     

    Post # 6
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: November 1999

    Hmmm… my band is plain platinum with milgrain edging and the ering is 18kt gold. Didn’t solder them. 1 year out and no signs of wear on either ring (at least from rubbing). Maybe it’s because they don’t sit flush all the time? I like the ability to wear them separately if needed.

    Post # 8
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    Honey bee
    • Wedding: December 2011

    i’ve received conflicting advice on this. although the majority of the advice I’ve received says not to solder them as it is not really necessary unless they really rub and turn. in which case they may be too big.

    i have 3 rings and i am not going to solder them together. i would prefer the option of wearing them apart. the only time i would solder is if it’s an enhancer or contoured band that cannot be worn on its own.

    Post # 9
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    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: January 2010

    @risingsun: 

    Do you mean the e-ring’s prongs or something jut out? When you wear the band, does the band rub against this jutting part?

    How wide are they together?

    I do find wearing, say for example, 3x2mm bands to feel drastically different than wearing one “solid” 6mm band, so upsizing is probably necessary. When your bands are separate they will flex a bit more around as your finger moves and swells, but if solid, they can’t, and will compress more of your finger (like the pudgier part) as well as be more resistant over the knuckle.

    It really is personal choice. But they WILL wear in time without soldering. The degree will vary depending on the settings, metals, how close the rings sit next to each other, and so on but it will happen. Metal against any metal will cause scratching, and diamonds against any metal will often cause deeper gouges. I have seen some pictures on PS etc of platinum erings that have been chewed up on the side by, say, a shared prong wedding band. And while you can polish platinum, there is not much you can do for the deep scratches and gouges like that.

    Here is an image from tyty333 on PS, showing her platinum e-ring after two years of wear against a shared prong diamond band. You can see where the prongs have been scratched and dented in:

     

    This is D&T’s ring, which is metal against metal – her 14k channel set band against 14k engagement ring, after about 5 years. As you can see, there is a bit of a curve in where the band has rubbed against the ering over the years:

     

    Some people don’t worry about it because they also have no problem changing their settings in a few years if need be, which can be decades depending on thickness of setting and wear. I felt this way with my old rings though they were very smooth/flush and the band did not hit the prongs, etc. My current rings though I want to have forever, so, I do think more about long term wear. Sure over time the gold will wear anyway, but I am not going to make it worse and certainly am going to limit the wear from the sides as best I can! 

    For me, though, the thing that got me to TRY it is…soldering is not permanent. I decided that if I tried it, and did not like it, I could have them take them back apart. Again, just go to a GOOD bench who knows what they are doing, uses the proper solder for your rings, and there should be NO damage as a result of soldering.

    Now that I am on my work computer, I can show my solder in my rings.

    Here is the solder from the back. Mine are a bit unusual as they do not join up as evenly so it was a bit trickier:

    Here is the solder from the interior (sorry, it is very blurry!):

    Post # 10
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    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: January 2010

    This is a great example too, by Love Street on PS, of the wear on her ering from a shared prong ring. I do think shared prong rings are the worst for wearing down other rings, as the girdles of the diamonds are exposed and it is THOSE that do terrible damage to other rings.

    “I don’t know if it would take decades – my shared prong eternity band has done quite a number on the prongs of my e-ring in just 6 years of wearing them together. The e-ring prongs holding the center stone used to be the same rounded shape as the prongs holding the side stones. After 6 years they have been whittled away such that the very thinnest point it is almost paper thin. See the photos below, including the dcotored photo where I tried to paint in the original lines of the prongs. I took them to Tiffany yesterday and the staffperon said while it’s ok at the moment, ultimately it will have to be repaired or re-set. So perhaps I can get another few years – but that means they’ve lasted maybe one decade… (sad But I haven’t soldered them and don’t wear a spacer, so this is option 3: wear it and live with it. It does bug me though

    Post # 11
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    18643 posts
    Honey Beekeeper
    • Wedding: June 2009

    I soldered mine and love it.  I have a diamond band so I don’t really plan on ever wearing it alone.  I might buy a more basic band for travel but we have been married almost 3 years and I still haven’t done it.  My rings moved a lot even though they were sized properly (especially in the winter because my fingers shrink).  My rings to get a little too tight for comfort some times in the summer due to the heat, I probably should have sized them up a little.

    PS – Even now my soldered rings are moving from center because of typing.

    Post # 12
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    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: January 2010

    @MrsSaltWaterTaffy:  Gosh, yes, my finger can vary a full size over a DAY never mind the year!

    Post # 14
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: August 2013

    I will be soldering mine. I’ve never considered not. Its all about personal preference really, but I’ve always thought soldered rings look cleaner since they aren’t spinning different directions and stay together. Your rings will show wear if you don’t solder them, but if you like them seperate and if you are ok with having to replace them, or fix them then don’t worry about soldering.

    Post # 15
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: February 2010

    for those who say that keeping their rings separate did not damage their rings– that’s because you probably won’t see any change for a few years. wait 10-20 years and then you will definitely see wear and tear, especially if prongs touch. 

    I soldered mine mainly because I wanted my bands to fit more loosely- so they would be more comfortable and so I wouldn’t have ring “muffin top”.   but if I had sized them up and not soldered them together, then individually they would have spun too much and would drive me crazy.  together they stay in place. 

    I had mine soldered together / sized up and I LOVE it!  it’s more comfortable, and my 3/4 eternity band will never ever show its “blank” side up again.   

    it was a no brainer for me. I don’t like how my wedding band looks or feels when it’s alone (the prongs dig in more). I have a different band I wear if I need just a wedding band alone. 

    and this is NOT permanent. you can have them separated. ask your jeweler. 

     

    Post # 16
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    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: January 2010

    @risingsun:  It looks like on yours it could go either: prongs wearing on band (but if the band rotates, this wear won’t likely be obvious in any one spot) or band wearing on sidestone prongs.

    The wear won’t be as bad as if you had a shared prong band, pave, milgrain or other fine details, but it might occur over many years.  It just depends on whether you are okay being more likely having to repair the prongs in many years or not, really!

    Some people just really like having separate rings, too, so you need to decide if you are one of these. Personally, I was surprised by how much I loved having only one ring to put on, take off, store, and so on, but of course I was going from 4 to 1 rather than 2 to 1, so the difference was even more appreciated. I have gone from 1, to 2, to 4, to “1”! Since I am resoldering them to have three together and one apart, I will be back to 2 but the “spare” will be worn on my right hand anyway.  But like I said, though I always thought I wanted the flexibility to wear my band alone and so was resistant to soldering, in 2 1/2 years of marriage this never happened. If I was doing anything that put my “ering” OR my finger at risk, be it going to the gym, bungee jumping, playing in the ocean, or cleaning with chemicals, I cared just as much about my band (and finger!) so wore neither!

    Another benefit is that I could size up even more (I like my rings looser) and not worry about losing them as the width makes them harder to just come off the knuckle. My rings are eternity-style, so I was not worried about them shifting out of place necessarily, but they do vary across the ring so the hardest part was deciding how I wanted them to “face up” when soldered together, as there were certain ways I preferred them to face up!

     

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