(Closed) Someone died so I could have my diamond…

posted 8 years ago in Rings
Post # 62
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3218 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2012

The only direction I gave to SO in purchasing a ring was “must be Canadian diamond”. 

When he proposed I nodded, and said “babe, you made sure it’s a Candaian diamond right?” he nodded. That was of upmost importance to me.

Post # 63
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35 posts
Newbee

@Kir32:  +1 Also, if you’re wearing a moissanite ring for “ethical” reasons, I damn sure hope you made a big deal about the origin of the metal in your band – is it recycled? Ethically sourced? Was the setting mass produced under poor conditions in another country? Are there DIAMONDS along the band? <—- (that one really kills me…”I hate diamonds so we chose moissanite as our center – there’s a carat of real diamonds on the band!!!”)

Problems can exist with colored stones, as well. Don’t think you’re in the clear just because you’re wearing a colored gemstone.

 

Post # 64
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641 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: January 2006

@Kir32:  Just because C&C (according to you) moved their production to China or India, does not make them a bad guy IMO and is not on the same level as blood dimonds mining. Most of goods these days are produced in those countries because the wages there are more competitive. The world is a globalised place and that is what happens. I also wanted to point out that China and India these days are getting richer because of all the opportunities they are getting and their middle class is growing as a result. At the same time,  the standard of living is dropping in the Western Countries and the wages are stagnant. The globilised nature of macro economy these days is making those adjustments and it is not all a bad thing for those countries at all. Wink I think this “sweat shop” image people have in mind when reading the label “made in China” is becoming a thing of the past.

Post # 65
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894 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: April 2014

@sparkletiger:  Well I don’t agree that the sweatshop image people have is a thing of the past. I think it is very much a reality. At the very least, companies are specifically outsourcing to these countries because they can make a much larger profit because they can pay much less for labor and often do not have to hand out any other benefits. 

I also just get sick of the diamonds = unethical and moissanite = ethical. I gave this fact (it’s not something “according to me”, it’s a fact) to show that moissanite uses subpar standards as well. I guess it is just whether you opt for the very slim chance of having a blood diamond or the almost 100% chance that your moissanite was cut by someone working in substandard conditions for crappy wages.

Post # 66
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641 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: January 2006

@Kir32:  Most of the goods that are consumed in the West are made in China, India, etc. You are right, the “sweat shop” issue is not completely eliminated, but standards there are rising. On a subject of Moissanite V Diamond and ethical issues, it is very personal and for some it is not just the blood diamond thing , but the issue of mining and distruction of nature, etc. Same is with metals I suppose. I think these choices are personal and I do believe that these days the majority of people buying diamonds do so with responsibility and their choices should not be arbitrarily labeled “unethical”.

 I love both diamonds and Moissy, to me they are different stones and I love them for what they are. I own a few Moissy pieces because I love the optical properties of Moissy, but at the same time, I love diamonds too (although can not afford as many diamond pieces). I think that diamonds v moissy debate overall is pointless, because jewelrey lovers in their majority love both, it doesn’t have to be “either.. or”.  I know some people that have a honking diamond e ring but also have a pair of moissy earings. Nothing wrong with that!

Post # 69
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7990 posts
Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: February 1997

Something else to keep in mind is that moissanite is almost as hard as diamonds. So what do people think they use to cut and poish moissanite? They use industrial grade diamonds. 

As I’ve mentioned before, industrial grade diamonds have a lot of other uses. Almost any mass-produced printed material (over about a million copies) is printed from cylinders engraved from a diamond head. 

Again, my point is just that few people can avoid the use of diamonds completely. I support people choosing the issues they most care about and being activists on the part of those causes. But it is important to know all the applications for the material you disapprove of in order to make educated choices. 

Post # 70
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1084 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2014

@MexiPino:  lol! My fi and I got a moissanite as well after an awful diamond ring, and I got so tired of the diamond is traditional thing! For some reason, I always felt super bad looking at my diamond ring.. I’m not sure if it was because it was poorly made, or because I felt guilty for spending so much on a tiny rock.. But I do love my moissanite now. 

Post # 71
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

@sugarpea:  Yes, exactly. That being said, I do have a Canadian diamond. Currently our federal government is intent on destorying any land that has value and treats our indigenous persons basically like a problem to be dealt with. Everything I CAN buy in this country is from another country where people are treated like slave labourers. I couldn’t buy something produced ethically if I tried in this country. 

Post # 72
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5360 posts
Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: October 2015

@happilyeveraftergirl:  yeah. It’s all part if the wedding industry. I’m also apparently insane for wanting my bridesmaids to pick their own mismatched dresses, radical for wanting a civil ceremony, and batshit crazy for considering having slightly different centerpieces on each table. The fact that I not only own but am proud of my “diamond simulant” (because god forbid we acknowledge that a clear stone can be its own thing) is fucking blowing people’s minds. 

Post # 73
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5360 posts
Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: October 2015

@sparkletiger:  wow. No. People are dieing in sweatshops everyday. There were at least three stories just last year of businesses trying to run over protesting employees. The sweat shops are going strong. I have no idea where you are getting the idea that things are getting better other than that companies might be less inclined to admit to using them. 

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