Post # 1
So, my Fiance wants to buy a camper trailor to the tune of $20,000 that he found, looked at and liked from some craigslist add.
He went to the bank to obtain a loan for part of it, and because of his numerous outstanding loans they declined him and said to re-apply when his loans are lower (they are all up to date with payments, and he lives within his range)
Well, I just so happened to have a friend who is selling the EXACT samw camper trailor but his is in a little better shape. After speaking with him he has concluded he will sell it to me at the total of 23000 and will allow me to make payments directly to him for $300 per month (which was less than the bank could do for Fiance might I add)
He drew up a contract to protect us both of course. Well, I told Fiance I was going to buy said trailor (and be who made the payments etc) and he is furious?
How does me, getting him a gift (very lavish might I add!) make me the bad guy? As I am about to flip out!!
Post # 2
It might be because this was something he wanted to get/accomplish by himself without the assistance or intervention of you. I wouldn’t take it personally and just let him simmer down for a while. He might still be upset about the loans and just venting to the world but you’re unfortunately the first thing he sees.
Post # 3
Djacks88: He is likely embarassed that he was turned down by the bank and further embarassed that you can afford to give him this gift.
That doesn’t excuse his behavior.
I also suggest to you that a Fiance with that much debt doesn’t really need a camper trailer. Recreational vehicles are luxuries not necessities.
Post # 5
a more useful gift may be putting the money for camper towards one or more of your Fiances debts. You have to remember that once married these debts will become yours as well.
Post # 6
The thing is they are his business debts. He owns a business and is still making payments on the building, and then a loan he took to buy things for said business, and he pays them both double a month. He isn’t behind, or living beyond his means by any stretch
Post # 7
Can’t say why your fiance flipped out. Maybe he thinks you went behind his back or you’re butting in, or maybe he is a control freak. Not enough info to have an opinion. I will say, though, nothing kills a friendship faster than borrowing or lending money, and between that fact and the knowledge that a bank won’t lend your fiance a smaller sum of money than what you’re getting ready to spend, it’s probably not a good idea to buy that camper.
Post # 8
if he has “numerous outstanding loans” that are too high for the bank to give him another, he is living beyond his means end of story but that’s not the issue at hand here. Probably, he is insulted by your “coming to his rescue” and he is probably embarrassed that the friend thinks less of him as a man now. Not saying that that’s true, that either you or your friend think less of him – just saying that men’s egos are incredibly fragile!
Post # 9
Eh, I’d guess you hurt his fragile male ego. Don’t take it personally. Hopefully he will get over being embarrassed about how her got the trailer and get to being excited that you two can go camping!!!
Post # 10
Djacks88: If I were your Fiance I would be grateful but at the same time be annoyed. Kind of because if it was something I wanted to do myself and then my partner went and researched their own better deal for *them* to purchase I would feel like my *thing* was stolen. I think it has to maybe do with how it as presented as well. You went and arranged to buy something (and pay for it yourself) that he wanted. It might have gone over better if you had said “I knew you wanted a camper trailer. So I found this one, friend said we can make payments if necessary. So what do you think? we could both contribute to the payments.” It’s possible he feels left out of both the planning and the actual buying when this was an idea he had to begin with. Childish? maybe. Irrational? probably. but possible lol. I can see myself having a selfish moment that way if I were in your FI’s shoes. Although it would pass quickly.
how about just asking him why he’s so upset?
Post # 11
Maybe what the bank said scared him. You also cannot afford this trailor. You will have to make payments. If your fiancé can’t get a small bank loan you do not need a trailor. This isn’t even a matter of opinion. Pay that debt down before you need a loan for a real necessity and you can’t get it.
Post # 12
- Wedding: August 2013 - Rocky Mountains USA
You’re definitely not the bad guy and you’re welcome to buy the camper for me instead – I’ll be very appreciative!
Post # 13
Guys still have a very “I am bread winner” mentality. It’s likely ego. My Fiance had an issue with one of his student loan payment plans increasing his payment, and while I was sitting in the room talked about EVERY WAY he could make the payment besides the obvious “Ask my Fiance who is sitting next me right now for help.” It was a HUGE ego thing for him when I looked at him and asked how much he wanted to make the payment. It took about 20 minutes for me to look at him and go “This is the way this getting married thing works. I help you out, you help me out.”
Post # 14
- Wedding: June 2015 - Dreams Las Mareas - Costa Rica
You’re not the bad guy…
could your Fiance be jealous of this “guy friend”? Was he an EX? or someone that might be interested in you and thats why he is doing this “favor” for you?
Just asking because I dont see why he is so upset either…
Post # 15
You found a camper and worked out the details of a contract for something he wanted, and you did all of that without telling him what you were doing or even asking him if he wanted it done… I can see why he’s irritated.
His reaction may have been wrong, and his ego may be hurt, but you really did interfere with and get in the middle of something that he wanted to do, and you got in the way of him solving his own problems.
Make suggestions, show him what you found, but in most cases it’s just not a good idea to complete the whole process of buying something for someone when it’s something they wanted to do on their own. If this was something that was a necessity, sure, you may have to do what you did, but for something recreational — help them achieve it if you must, but don’t rip away the experience and satisfaction that comes from getting something on your own and overcoming the obstacles that were in the way.
You’re not the “bad guy”, but you’re certainly not the good guy.