Post # 1
The other thread about blood diamonds got me thinking…..I generally agree with the ethical concerns about buying a diamond (let’s set aside gemstones and metal mining for the moment). If I were starting over id probably get a lab created yellow diamond for a multitude of reasons.
But some bees made the point that clear man-made/ lab made stones still contribute to the demand, so to speak. BC they look the same as mined stones. Heirlooms would fall into this category too I think.
I get that argument, but I personally don’t know that I agree. For example, id happily wear faux fur or leather or eat a veggie burger but hell no to the real things (that’s my ethical issue, lol). Therefore I think wearing my heirloom stone (or rocking a moissy or what have you) is similar to buying faux leather, which I do without worrying that I’m contributing to the demand / animal cruelty.
Does this make sense? Yes or no, wearing something that looks like a diamond contributes to the problem? Thoughts?
Post # 3
@wrkbrk: I used to think heirloom stones didn’t “count” but then another bee made the fur comment. Sure, you’d wear faux fur (thus a diamond “simulant” or something is similar) but would you wear an heirloom fur?
Personally, I wouldn’t wear real fur even if it had been in my family forever so now I definitely look at my heirloom diamonds differently. I’m not entirely sure what I’m supposed to DO with them, but I do feel odd about them.
Post # 4
@MexiPino: makes sense. If I had fur or leather handed down……I would probably wear it but maybe I wouldn’t. I can’t say for sure :-/
Post # 5
@wrkbrk: I think it depends on the situation. If you call a duck a duck (or a moissy/lab created a moissy/lad created etc etc) then you would be not contibuting to the problem. In fact you would be doing the opposite and educating people that there are alternatives out there that look just as good.
From my research most diamonds nowadays are not conflict but I do still think that there are inherent problems with the industry in developing countries like Africa where slave wages are paid and living conditions of workers are subpar.
So wearing an heirloom diamond to me could contribute to the problem if you aren’t educated on the issues but in my mind is better for the enviroment than a newly mined diamond.
Post # 6
@j_jaye: That’s how I feel. I love telling people about my moissy. My FI’s cousin commenting on my “beautiful diamond” at dinner the other night and was so excited when I told her what it really was. She just ordered some earrings from C&C!
Post # 7
@j_jaye: agree. I tell everyone my boots are made of pleather and they fall apart in the snow lol!
Post # 8
I don’t think wearing something that looks like a diamond is a problem, because a lot of ladies are very happy to educate about diamond alternatives! I think attitudes are slowly changing, and the more people talk about moissy and other gemstone alternatives (like other white or coloured gems) the better!
I have an heirloom ring, and I generally don’t feel bad about it because…well, as you say, what am I supposed to do with it?
I would equate this to clothing. No, I would not wear heirloom fur, but let me explain. I buy maybe 90-95% of my clothes secondhand (Goodwill/Salvation Army) because that is how I grew up (poor family) and that is how my style developed…it’s just more interesting to wear used clothes, and your outfits are more unbique! 🙂
But I digress… my point is that I do occasionally wear USED clothing that might be brand-name, and thus almost certainly came from a sweatshop. I avoid logos, and anythign that promotes a brand, But still, I wear clothes with dubious origins. My reasoning is that it would be in a landfill otherwise.
Does the same go for used diamonds? Honestly, I’d love to hear opinions, I fight with myself over this rather often.
Post # 9
@wrkbrk: My dear, when one is trying to appease the thought police and their Politically Correct henchmen, it is very difficult to determine what meets their rigorous standards.
Post # 10
I think they contribute a lot less. In an ideal world we’d all wear recycled twist ties or something. In the real world we have to draw a line somewhere. I have an heirloom that I wear and love. Wouldn’t buy a new diamond, but I’m sentimental and I Like that this ring holds a piece of both sides of our family.
Post # 11
@FauxPas2012: I get what you’re saying, but I don’t think this comment is super helpful. Of course you can’t base your decisions on popular opinion, but I do think it is worthwhile considering whether your consumer habits support ethical businesses/industries, or not. What you use you money to buy is really a pretty political act, IMO.
Post # 12
I might get flamed for this, but I’ll admit that I just don’t care where a diamond comes from. So I obviously don’t care about stimulants or things that look like diamonds. Wear what you want on your finger!
Post # 13
I have heirloom diamonds (wedding band), and heirloom fur! (So I’ll just go ahead and be Satan over here!)
I feel WORSE about my heirloom diamonds than I do about my new ones! All my new diamonds were purchased from a legitimate seller in the US–So they’re conflict-free (In theory, anyway.)
My heirloom diamonds are from the 40s, though! Doesn’t that make them honest-to-God actual blood diamonds? From what I understand, there’s no way those are conflict-free!
Post # 14
An heirloom diamond definitely has a lower human and resource cost than making or mining a new stone of any sort. It’s not like the people who may have been harmed in order to bring the diamond to market are getting wronged again. It takes raw materials and energy to make new things, so nothing is totally clean. Throwing old diamonds in the trash doesn’t erase the human suffering they have caused, but it does necessitate additional mining.
By the same standard, I would wear vintage fur.
Post # 15
@MrsSnowMountain: that’s a good analogy-thrift shop brand name clothes possibly from sweatshops. Thanks for adding that comment!
Tbh I know we can all only do so much or it would be hard to live….but choosing what to support with our money is political expression, as another bee said!
Post # 16
K wait… am I not allowed to wear my antique 1920’s fur coats now? The ones handed down from my great grandmother? But meanwhile all of my clothes are from countries with questionable human rights and labour standards regardless of if I like it or not? I’m out.