(Closed) SPIN-OFF: What would YOU do? (warning: about sexual violence) (NWR)

posted 6 years ago in Relationships
Post # 3
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2013

B.  React instantly and follow your instinct in the moment.

A.  Grab the nearest object (lamp. baseball bat, brick, rock etc.) and hit the man until the act has stopped and he seems to be subdued (taking the risk that you could potentially harm this individual severely including death.)

A.  Feel like you did your best in the situation and comfortable with your decision even if it ended in the attackers death.

A.  Nothing, I acted in self defense of my helpless sister/friend/cousin etc. (and my own self defense once I took action.)

Post # 4
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Buzzing Beekeeper

@Mrs. Puffin:  Ditto to all these. I would definitely have a hard time living with the fact that I killed someone, but not as hard of a time as I’d have if I knew my mother/friend/relative’s rapist was sitting in jail only to be released and likely re-offend. There’s a convicted child rapist working at our local McDonald’s, forcible rape and assault of a child under the age of 8. Yes I drive to the next town over if I want fries.

Post # 5
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: November 2011

B.  React instantly and follow your instinct in the moment.

A.  Grab the nearest object (lamp. baseball bat, brick, rock etc.) and hit the man until the act has stopped and he seems to be subdued (taking the risk that you could potentially harm this individual severely including death.)

Afterward, I have no idea how I would feel about it.  I’d imagine it would be a range of emotions not adequately expressed by any of the options. 

As for the outcome, I would hope that after an investigation, that would be the end of it.

Post # 6
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2013

@o0olibelulao0o:  

B.  React instantly and follow your instinct in the moment.

A.  Grab the nearest object (lamp. baseball bat, brick, rock etc.) and hit the man until the act has stopped and he seems to be subdued (taking the risk that you could potentially harm this individual severely including death.)

A.  Feel like you did your best in the situation and comfortable with your decision even if it ended in the attackers death.

A.  Nothing, I acted in self defense of my helpless sister/friend/cousin etc. (and my own self defense once I took action.)

Post # 7
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: September 2010

@KatyElle:  Ditto about both how I’d respond and how I’d feel afterward. Also, I’d drive to the next town over for fries if I were in a similar situation.

ETA: If the rapist had a weapon, that would somewhat affect how I’d respond, as I wouldn’t want to do anything to put my friend into additional danger. If that were the case, my first strike would most definitely be intended to render him fully incapacitated. And in that situation, I would care even less about whether he ended up unconscious or dead.

Post # 8
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: April 2013

I would probably go the B, A, A, A route too. I think in that situation I’d be in shock and would just react. I’d like to think that I would take a second to asses the situation but if somebody I loved was being raped, I don’t know that I would. 

Post # 10
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: February 2013

In this case, I seriously don’t think that the father “just” hit the attacker until he was “subdued” & “the act had stopped”. He hit him to the point of killing him — it’s quite a bit more.

I don’t know how I feel about this case. Yes, he was in the moment, and child abuse is HORRIBLE (abuse of ANY kind is!). But…I also feel like you don’t get to beat another person until they die and just walk away from it. I don’t know. I feel like if he wanted to claim self-defence (or, rather, defence of his daughter)…it was Texas, I’m sure he had a gun on him to shoot the guy, or something else to subdue him. The way I look at it, he was blinded by rage, and WANTED THE GUY DEAD (which I don’t blame him for), and he wanted to feel bones break & so he hit him the way he did. And I’m sure that he just lost control & didn’t really have the soundness of mind to realise when the guy wasn’t a threat anymore…but still. It makes me feel squicky to know that the dad killed someone & “got away with it” (even though I know it’s a unique situation).

As for what I’d do…I’m honestly not sure.

Post # 12
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Bee Keeper

Ditto PPs, B, A, A, A.

Post # 13
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2016

B, a,a,a.  For me too.  

If it were me beig raped, I would probably feel vindicated. Because to this day I seriously want to set fire to a guys house while he is in it.   Does that make me a bad person, probably.

Post # 14
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: April 2012

B,A,A,A but honestly if a gun and lamp were in the same reach I’d grab the gun.

Post # 15
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: September 2011

Your first instinct is to:

B.  React instantly and follow your instinct in the moment.

 

Next you would:

D. None of the above. (explain below.)

Personally I would try to distract/startle him and at the same time try to injure/hurt him, like start shouting and kick him in the throat.  Women need to learn the vulnerable parts of a man’s body and how to use them in their defense; I’d be afraid that a weapon would/could be taken away from me and used against me, and I know I’d likely only get ONE shot so I’d need to make it a good one. Throat, nose, groin, whatever would be easiest for me to target and hardest for him to defend.

My aim would be 100% to incapacitate with as little physical contact as possible, because if that guy gets back up after I kick him, he’s going to be PISSED and I am not looking to become his second victim in that house. 

After you would:

C.  Feel remorseful and guilty at the attackers death.

Yes, he’s a bad guy doing a very bad thing, but it’s still a human life and I’m not so cold-hearted that I wouldn’t feel that (or at least I like to think I’m not so cold-hearted as to not feel that).

 

If you took action resulting in the death or serious injury of the attacker:What do you think your outcome should be for your actions :

 

D. Other. (explain below)

 A combination of B and C— I wouldn’t automatically assume a jury would find me innocent, and I’d be willing to have my day in court. I will say, though, I’d sell everything I owned and mortgage myself to the eyeballs if that’s what it took to hire a high-powered attorney; I trust juries, but I also know that a good defense team (which unfortunately is often an expensive defense team) is able to present the evidence to a jury in a way that would be more likely to go in my favor.  But I’d say the exact same thing— mortgage the house and spend it all on a lawyer– if I were charged with a more willful act.

For me, i think the jury trial would be absolutely essential in my being able to move on, unless I had the opportunity for a plea agreement that only carried a low-level misdemeanor.

FWIW my answers would be the same if it were a stranger as victim.  I can’t think of a non-public setting for stumbling across something like this, so I’d be more likely to “yell, scream, shout and get help” because there’s strength in numbers, but say I was checking into a hotel room and someone had abducted a stranger into my room. I’d kick him hard.

Post # 16
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: July 2014

I would just react. If it’s a large man vs me, I would use any force necessary because I would be much weaker. 

If I had a gun in front of me ( I dont own one, just hypotheticaly ) I would probably aim and tell the person that if they move I will kill them. If I didnt have a gun I would grab nearest object with the most force and use it until I felt I was safe. I would go for the gun first because I feel that if I tried to just hit the person they would just hurt me because I am much smaller. 

If the person died I probably would feel some guilt but be overall okay with what I did. I feel like I would feel guilt no matter what I did in this situation. 

I believe It would be self defence if it was obvious to the police what had happened. 

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This is only specific to this situation. If it was a child I would act differently and there would be no logical thinking involved. 

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