Post # 136
I recently got my PAL both for non/restricted. I’ve never grown up around gun culture but wanted to learn. The safety course was very informative and intense. The instructors were fantastic and answered all question I or anyone else had. Although I have not yet purchased a gun I am looking.
I admit when I first went in- I was scared shitless. But the course helped and I’d probably just end up being a target shooter. I think for me- the main reason was just to learn and for an ‘in case of’ scenario. I have many veteran and hunter friends and I will continue asking questions.
The process through the RCMP I felt was intense as well. Even my references were like ‘Wow! They really got into depth with you!’
Post # 137
AllAboutThatBass: Yeah there’s a lot of questions they ask. A few years ago (5-ish?) I delat with depression. I had to get a paper signed by my doctor saying that I’d dealt with the depression and was no longer suffering from it.
For your first gun go with a .22. My fiancé got a Ruger 10.22 as his first gun, but that’s a rifle. If you’re wanting to go with a pistol, he started off with a Ruger Mark 3. My first gun was a GSG 1911, chambered in .22 (http://www.gsg-waffen.de/site/images/1911/specs/photos/GSG_1911_Stainless.png) << Looks like that! My second gun is a Norinco P22 (off brand version of a SigSaur P226) (http://www.sigsauer.com/upFiles/catalog/product/E26R-9-CBT-LARGE.jpg) <<Looks like that! Even has the official Sig Handgrips 🙂
Definetly start off with a .22 though…less intimidating for sure!
Post # 138
thepurplegirl: That’s deeply disturbing. It is so bizarre to see people talk about guns as if they are just neutral objects.
Post # 139
Guns are not the issue
Crazy people owning guns are the issue
Post # 140
Butterfly6: Paraphrasing the NCBI here: the notion that mental illness causes gun violence stereotypes a vast and highly diverse array of individuals with psychiatric conditions and painfully oversimplifies links between violence and mental illness. In fact, mental ill people–especially those with “scary” conditions like schizophrenia and psychosis–are far more likely to suffer from abuse and violence than inflict it. So you can leave “crazy” out of the discussion.
I don’t understand the implication that this all exists in a helpless vacuum when 22-year-old John Crawford and 12-year-old Tamir Rice were both shot on sight by police for holding toy guns in Ohio–which is an open carry state, by the way. Do you honestly think groups of brown protestors would be allowed to prowl around carrying shotguns unhindered, like the white men outside a Texas mosque or around a restaurant where MDA members were eating? When are the tear gas canisters and tanks and teams of police with assault rifles coming for the “kill or be killed if necessary” armed tresspassers/protestors in Oregon? It’s not hard too see that our gun problem is partially a symptom of our white supremacy, white masculinity problem.
Post # 141
Speck_: When I used the word ‘crazy’, I did not mean ‘mentally ill’…I just went to the slang term of ‘crazy’ so my apologies. I use the word ‘crazy’ to mean unreasonable, biased, people who have an aversion to what is right and just and the list goes on and on. In other words, someone who uses a gun to oppress, conquer and/or control,or to create victims.
Post # 142
To add to my last comment: to Speck__, that is part of the problem but also WITHIN the black community as well. No race has a monopoly on unreasonableness. However, I agree again that this is part of the problem.
Post # 143
Your statement to thepurplegirl was incredibly rude. Just because you can’t understand it doesn’t mean that it’s deeply disturbing.
There are people in this world who DO know THAT much about guns. My husband is one of them. AND, he is an expert shooter, a range master, and spent over twenty five years on the street keeping the peace. He is one of the kindest, most well balanced people that I have known in my 46 years on this planet. AND he has a deep seated appreciation for his weapons.
I agree with PPs that there are far more pressing social issues that our nation needs to address.
Post # 144
Speck_: I have to ask this question, and I do so with all respect… How can you look at the demographics of gun violence and call this a white supremacist/white masculinity problem?