(Closed) Spinoff: Getting the rights to your photos…

posted 6 years ago in Photos/Videos
Post # 4
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2012

@HappilyEverAfter54: just make sure you get it all included in the contract and you won’t have any problems 🙂

Post # 5
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Helper bee

If the specific photographer has given you permission to edit, then it is okay to edit. But yes definitely get it in writing that they said its okay, in case they change their mind later. I would also inquire what their policy is on posting the edited images online, and get that in writing as well. 

My point on the other post is basically not to assume (not all photographers are keen on others editing their work – esp. if the person doesn’t real know how to). If you are open with your photographer about your intentions and have the capabilities to edit the things you want edited, and they are okay with it, then go for it. Its just a general no-no, not an absolute “do not ever do this” sort of thing; Just get the proper permissions and its all good.

Post # 6
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Bumble bee

This is not common.  I wonder if these are new photographer’s to the industry that have not learned (the hard way) of risks of doing this.

Post # 7
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: April 2011

Haha my photographer gave me CDs of all the images after the wedding, and I cropped a couple to frame, as well as retouching a giant bug bite in one.  It wasn’t until I started reading these boards until I questioned myself, and so I emailed him to check that that was okay.  He laughed and said of course.  I only met my photographer through the wedding, but we’ve run into each other several times since, commented on facebook pics, etc.  His deal seems to be that I can’t sell his pics or pass them off as my own, and if others want to buy copies he’d prefer I direct them to his site rather than giving them the files he gave me.  Obviously this is a different situation than a lot of big-time photographers, but I would suggest common sense and just shoot an email if you’re not sure.

Post # 8
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: April 2012

I would love for a PRO to weigh in on this. I don’t understand what the big deal is. If you pay a photographer to take photos and then you are given the disk with all photos, edited and unedited, they’re yours. Some bees have taken the extra precaution of adding it into their contract that they own the rights to their photos. But the way I see it is you’ve paid the photographer for their service and they’ve given you the end result. I see Miss OBG’s point about not selling the photos or passing them off as your own, etc, that makes sense and I don’t think 99% of us brides are thinking of selling them off anyways. However, if I want to crop someone out, remove my double chin, put them on my personal blog, or chop them up into a collage, I feel that would be my own business. I would as a courtesy, give the photog credit and then say “edited by me” or whatever. 

More and more now it’s common to just buy the disk with all your photos on them and print them yourself – plenty of posts have been created on that subject. In this day and age, I really don’t think that photogs are in the business of profiting from printing as they may have been in the past. Certainly they deserve to get paid fairly, but as a bride who’s paying fairly for a service, I expect I can do what I want with my photos. 

 

Post # 10
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Bumble Beekeeper

My photogs gave me complete rights to my photos too, and I can assure everyone that they are not new to the business. They just told me I can’t sell them too!

I wouldn’t worry as long as you have it in writing. 🙂

Post # 12
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Bumble Beekeeper

@HappilyEverAfter54: I think that different photographers just choose to run their businesses differently. It doesn’t mean that either way is right or wrong or less legit than the other. I have a full-on letter from my photogs saying that I have the right to edit and reproduce the photos as I see fit as long as I am not profiting from it.

Post # 14
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2013

@SugerPlum: Honestly, I agree with you. I was shocked at the controversy over all this!

Post # 16
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Bumble bee

If you have full copyright, you would own the images and could do anything you want with them, including sell.  Atomic put together some nice (and completely accurate) posts on this in the other thread but it was deleted…oh well.

A photographer typically gives you print or usage rights.  There are many reasons why a photographer woudn’t give away the copyrights to their images.

By law, the creator of an image (the photographer) owns the image and holds exclusive copyright.

They rights can only be transfered via contract

If a photographer gave a client full copyright, they have no rights to the images and would not be able to post them on a business blog or add them to a portfolio.  This is counter productive for a business.  Also, the end user could do anything they wanted with them including sell them or perform a sloppy edit on them, which, if posted pubically, could have a negative impact on the photographer.  It goes much deeper, but you get the idea.

 

 

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