(Closed) Spinoff: I support shelters, but shelter dogs are not the only way to go

posted 6 years ago in Pets
Post # 302
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2014

I am sure you do not want to see this but this is reality. I am a huge animal advocate, especially for Pit Bulls, I adopted/rescued one from a stupid backyard breeder who is an idiot and just needed money so he repeatedly breeded him male and female, I say I rescued him because we did .. My other Pit/American Bulldog was going to be euthanized hours before we had a resuce pull him, his mother, and 2 brothers and 3 sisters .. I will rescue for the rest of my life and I am sorry your paying wayyyyyy to much for breeded dogs, think about it-you are paying more for the same love .. 

Post # 303
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: June 2012

I haven’t read the whole thread yet, but I mostly agree with the OP.

Part of me does not agree with this “trend” of essentially creating mutts and selling them as a new breed…but the other part of me is torn. All recognized dog breeds started the same way, by mixing dog breeds to get a desired result..

We have a pure-bred English Setter. We have him for a purpose: Love and Hunting.

It’s HIGHLY unlikely we’d be able to find a quality hunting dog at a shelter. I also have reservations about bringing a dog into my house with an unknown history into my home when I have a small child.

My neighbors currently foster 7 dogs, and a few of them absolutely terrify me.

 

So yeah…don’t tsk tsk those of us who buy purebreds..concentrate more on the douchebags who buy animals irresponsibly, don’t train them, & then dump them because they’re too lazy to put in the work.

Post # 305
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: February 2015 - Mount Hermon

@Miss Apricot:  I have to disagree with you, in this instance.  Most of the time, I DO agree with you.  Labradoodles, puggles, etc should not be bred or charged so much for.

The program spent decades exploring which breeds worked best for the jobs the dogs would have.  Now they only breed labs and goldens and crosses of the two.  Consistently, I see that the crosses make better working dogs than the purebreds.  I personally ADORE purebred golden retrievers.  I think they are beautiful and affectionate.  I like that they have less energy than the labradors.  But, for the work that these dogs too, the low level of energy that goldens TYPICALLY (not always) have is a hurdle to overcome for the trainers.  Similarly, the high energy of the labs can be a hurdle.  One of my mom’s past puppies (a full golden) was released for low energy.  Another (a full lab) was released for high energy. The mix is TYPICALLY (see that “typically” part?) the perfect balance.  You may also note that I mentioned that they do not let dogs that are “too mixed” breed.  Breeders are always purebred or half lab/half golden.  They do this in order to prevent the lines from getting insanely convoluted. 

These dogs do not “look funny” because they are crosses.  When breeder dogs are chosen, they are picked because they are the best of the best by the standards of the program. They are very intelligent, willing, affectionate, gentle, tolerant, and, above all, HEALTHY.  Their puppies have a high chance of sharing those qualities and becoming excellent service dogs.

Every single one of them is beautiful, in my opinion.  But I can recognize when a “dog show person” might sneer (sorry for insulting anyone, I know most of you are very kind and sweet, but that did happen once) because the ears are too high, the muzzle too short, the nose is pinkish, the tail too short, the color is too reddish.  

Reddish colored goldens are considered substandard.  To me, they are the most beautiful.  Yes, this program has some breeders that are red. When I said “funny looking,” I meant that in the way that a show judge would look at a red golden retriever. 

@sweetpea87:  Exactly.  You are spot on. 

@urchin:  Your setter is so handsome!  And you’re completely right.  I know so many people who adopted shelter dogs on a whim, didn’t train it and/or was surprised by some of it’s characteristics, and it ended up right back in the shelter. Or if they kept it, it was a misbehaved and obnoxious animal. 

Which is NOT to say that every shelter dog ends up like that!  But I’ve met a lot of really bratty ones, which were usually picked up on a whim and the people don’t know how/don’t want to deal with it.

Post # 306
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: August 2014

@leannteresa1:  LOVE this REALITY!! thanks so much for posting the truth. Ignorance is NOT bliss.

you can just as easily adopt / rescue a puppy from a high kill shelter that was dumped or as i said before adopt from a rescue where the animal has been a foster and you know what you’re getting they kid, cat, test etc…

Post # 308
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: September 2013

I think anyway you can give a dog a home is fantastic, whether it be by breeder or thru rescue. I’ve had 3 dogs in my lifetime, all came from a breeder. However, I would only go through a breeder that is reputable and is AKC registered.  All 3 of my doxie furbabies are/were so loving, sweet, and playful. Darling Husband and I hope to get a dog in the next year and while I would love to adopt one day, we will probably go with my dachshund breeder. I’ll probably get reamed for this, but we just get nervous when you don’t know what a dog has been through in the past and what their behavior might be (although I know many many people who have rescued and said their dogs are the most loyal dogs you can ever have…but sometimes you just don’t know)

Post # 310
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: December 2012

@Omgbunnies:  Fellow poodle lover!  🙂

Post # 311
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Helper bee

Darling Husband and I have only had purebred dogs (with lineages that go back 6 generations). We prefer this type of dog because we know their temperament, training needs, health concerns and goofy personalities. We actively seek out this kind of dog and will not get a shelter dog.

HOWEVER, we rescued our dogs from an organization that takes them in (only those kind) and adopts them out. I totally understand wanting a particular breed, but maybe find a way to give an otherwise homeless dog a home?

Post # 312
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: June 2011

 

I just read the first page of replies, so I apologize if repeating the same arguments…

I’m going to be honest, when I decided I wanted to get a dog, I thought you could buy it from a pet store. I knew nothing about dogs and once I did some research I learned about puppy mills and I was horrified. I decided to buy from a reputable breeder and did a lot of research and contacted some breeders requesting more information. My husband preferred the rescue/shelter option, so I agreed to go check out the shelter and as soon as I enter the first shelter, I never looked back, I left the place crying. I knew then I could never buy from a breeder knowing there were so many dogs that would be put down if not adopted. It may sound stupid/silly but I never made the connection until I actually visited a shelter.

We got a beautiful black cocker spaniel that we can’t live without. Her personality was exactly as described in her file. We were encouraged to interact with her to ensure it would be a good match. I would never consider a breeder; next dog we get would be from the shelter or a rescue.

The argument comparing adoption of dogs to babies is completely ridiculous; babies are not killed after sometime if not adopted by a family. For the record, I’m planning on adopting a kid, not a baby, but an older kid since older kids don’t get adopted as easily as babies. This was a discussion I had with my husband before getting married, since it would have been a deal breaker if he didn’t agree.  

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