(Closed) Spinoff: If you had the choice

posted 8 years ago in The Lounge
  • poll: Who would you save?

    Your beloved cat/dog/other furbaby

    Friend's infant

  • Post # 92
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    Helper bee
    • Wedding: September 2014

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    @housebee:  I totally agree with you, I don’t think it is either. I believe strongly in animal rights, have signed tons of petitions on behalf of tortured hurt/murdered animals, etc. Why is my “baby” not as important as yours (not *yours*, I mean whoever’s baby is hypothetically in my house when it goes up in flames)? Because he barks instead of speaks? Because he craps on the sidewalk instead of in diapers? No one else can judge the love I feel for my dog or tell me it’s somehow less than what they feel for their infant just b/c their baby is human and mine isn’t.

    Post # 93
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    Helper bee
    • Wedding: January 2011

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    @housebee:  oh i totally think that happens but probably in reality, not as often as is necessary to save lives in fires.

    Post # 94
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    Blushing bee
    • Wedding: June 2012

    I’m a little suprised at the answers here… I just can’t imagine saving an animal over a human life.

    What if the question were: your cat/dog or your FI/DH? That might put the question on more even grounds with respect to the value of human vs animal’s life. Assume that ONLY the one you choose will get out safely.

    Post # 95
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    Bee Keeper

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    @Pinkmoon: “If I was really in that situation, and truly faced with that choice, I don’t know what I would do. I would probably panic and try to grab both and then we would all end up dead. It would not be an easy choice at all and in reality I probably couldn’t make it.”

    This is pretty much my thinking. I don’t think any of us would be thinking rationally. I’d probably try to get both cats and the baby and end up dead. Or I could possibly panic, completely forget about the baby, grab the cats and run, I’m not used to having babies around and I could blank out. Or my flight response could kick in and I could just book it and forget about the cats and the baby. It’s easy to sit back and judge now saying “I’d definitely save the baby” but until you’re faced with such a terrible situation no one really knows.

    Post # 97
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    Buzzing Beekeeper
    • Wedding: September 2012

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    @stargazer102706:   That really is a good point, humans will eat your dead carcass if necessary, too, lol.

    This whole topic is making me feel really weary right now.  I understand people love their pets, but for God’s sake people, animals are not human beings and never will be, in spite of how much we project our “humanness” onto them.  They simply are just instinctual beings.  I love animals, I feel a lot of them are beautiful and noble creatures and, yes, there have been many cases of animals saving a human life.  But they are still just animals.

    My sister is the kind of person who’d vote that she’d readily save her “fur babies” over a friend’s baby.  And my sister is truly one of the worst mothers I’ve ever known.  She should never have had children.  Her dogs will always win out over her kids, for the rest of their lives.  She treats her dogs better than she treats her kids, loves them more, cares for them more, gives them more attention. I don’t agree with it, and I don’t understand it and I feel deeply sad for my amazingly beautiful nieces.

    Post # 98
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: June 2014

    I am really confused with those who rationalize saving the pet over the baby by saying “my cat/dog/random rodent etc IS my baby.”

    The human baby biologically IS your friend’s actual baby. Spawn from her own body. No matter how much you believe you are connected to your pet, that pet will absolutely, beyond the shadow of a doubt never be as much of “your baby” as the actual human baby is to your friend. It’s just not possible.

    I understand that you PERSONALLY may feel more of a connection to your pet than your friend’s baby, and therefore PERSONALLY value the life of your pet more — but to me, this question raises an issue that transcends that sentiment. As some have mentioned, the baby will develop a personality beyond animal instinct enabling it to potentially accomplish all kinds of impactful achievments, give love to others, and become a contributing member of society in ways that go WELL beyond the contributions a pet makes to it’s owner(s)’ lives. I think therein lies the value of human life.

    For that reason, no matter how much more important a pet is to ME, i would always, every time, choose the baby every. single. time. Human life is just too valuable. Pet’s lives are not UN-valuable, by any stretch….just inherently different and for good reason.

    Post # 99
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    Honey bee
    • Wedding: April 2012

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    @AlmostMrsDoc:  Thank you for that legal information! I was curious as to what it would be in that situation. I can’t imagine that U.S. law is any different. You of course would have the burden of proving that they had the means to save the baby correct?

    As for your other post, I would save my husband!

    Post # 100
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    Honey bee
    • Wedding: January 2014

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    @polyblonde:  +1. Well-written answer.

    Post # 101
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: May 2016

    Not voting. My gut reaction would be the baby, but honestly if there was someone elce to grab the baby, i would get my dogs, or at the very least my ferrets. I’d leave the fish though.

    Post # 102
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: November 1999

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    @Aure:  That’s a really good point. None of us can tell for sure what we would do in the middle of the situation. I think people are voting and commenting on what they would do, given the presence of mind to act as they believe.

    I would like to see the results if it was specified that you are the ONLY person that can do anything (babysitting alone, for example), and there is time for you to safely save only one, the friend’s baby or the pet. I think some of this is muddled by assumptions that there are other people to grab the baby.

    Post # 103
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: May 2012

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    @polyblonde:  +1

    Post # 104
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: September 2013

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    @polyblonde:  +1.

    This whole topic makes me sick to my stomach.

    Post # 105
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: October 2014

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    @polyblonde:  Does that mean that adopted children will never be as close to their adopted mothers?  Since you know, it didn’t come from her body?

    Post # 106
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: September 2013

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    @ImagineDragon24: Of course that’s not what she meant. I’m sure while she was typing her answer she didn’t stop to consider that some children are adopted, because it shouldn’t matter anyway. Birth baby, adopted baby, you save the baby. End of story.

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