Post # 1
So in the “Thank You / No Problem” thread (http://boards.weddingbee.com/topic/is-%e2%80%9cno-problem%e2%80%9d-a-rude-response-to-%e2%80%9cthank-you%e2%80%9d), a few of the replies mentioned finding it rude when when a person refers to a group (especially a group with women) as “you guys”.
Personally, I find this very odd. I grew up saying “you guys” as did everyone around me (I think it is often a Midwest thing as most people I know from the Midwest say this). No one ever found it rude and everyone knew it wasn’t trying to refer to males. To me, it is really no different from Southerners saying y’all.
Do you say “you guys”? Or do you find it rude? Why?
Post # 3
I say “you guys”. I was born in Michigan but grew up in South Carolina (and was raised by my Michigan-raised mother). I agree with you and I don’t think it’s any different than Southerners saying y’all although everyone always looked at me weird when I’d say it when I was in South Carolina and people would even tell me it was strange.
Post # 4
I have always said “you guys”.
“Hey you guys!” or “OMG, you guys MUST see this”, etc.
Lately, because I realize some women probably don’t care for it I started saying “ladies!” Or “Hey girls” if it’s a group of girls.
I’ve never meant to imply that I’m speaking to males, it’s just more of a “hey you human beings over there, pay attention to me for a second!”.
Post # 5
I used to say it a lot, but when I started bartending it felt weird to say “Hey guys” to a party with women in it. But I still say it casually around friends.
Post # 6
@.twist.: lol agreed on all points… especially the last one!
most of my friends growing up WERE guys (girls is crazy, y’all) so that + being from the midwest = “you guys” being commonplace? i don’t know. i usually say “hey y’all” in a paula deen voice now so i can’t really comment too much.
Post # 7
I voted other – I think it’s totally fine in informal situations (and I use it all the time), but I don’t think it’s appropriate in a more formal setting.
Post # 8
It doesn’t bother me, but if I’m in a group of all women I’d prefer “ladies”.
Post # 9
I hate it. hateithateithateit. But if I hate it that much, I must have some kind of problem. For the original thread about “no problem” I came down on “grating but taken in the spirit in which its given” – it’s not a big deal. But even if I’m the only woman in a group of men, I don’t like “you guys”, much less for a mixed group, or a majority or all women.
I don’t know what my hangup is. I kind of thought it might be regional – Bees, do you think it could be a southern thing?
I live abroad, with one particularly close friend who wants to speak very proper English and asks me to correct him, so when he sent out a group e-mail saying “You guys” I said “hey, wait” and explained; And then I found that he learned it from one of his New Yorker women friends, and I felt awful.
I think it’s becoming so accepted, it might be useless to fight against it.
Post # 10
I say “you guys” if I want to be really specific that I’m not just talking to one person (eg, the indistinguishable “you.”)
Hey, it’s better than “yousn’s.” (hehehe…)
Post # 11
I think its fine. In many languages where they define between male and female, the male version of a word is often meant to be the all emcompassing world.
Like in spansih its os versus as for girl and boy, but many words simply end in o or os, “Hey All” would be Hola Todos- the os indicating a masculine ending.
Post # 12
I grew up saying “you guys” too. And I’m no where near the midwest… It really doesn’t bother me and I never thought anyone would take offense to it.
Post # 13
@red_rose: I dunno… I think I’m going to have to disagree. “yousn’s” seems pretty spectacular, I might just have to start using that!!!!
Post # 14
If it is a mixed group of men and women, I would say, “hey guys!” or “hey everybody!”. If it were a group made up of only women, it would be “hey ladies”. I would never be offended by someone saying, “hey guys!” when I was included in that group. It isn’t as if they have mistaken you as a man, it is just a saying.
Post # 15
I am from the Midwest too and say ‘you guys’ in an informal context. If you are addressing a group professionally, or formally, it is best to address them as “you all” or “everybody/everyone.” At my work it is a part of our training to not use ‘guys’ when addressing a group of people.
Post # 16
In my profession, I speak to large crowds regularly. My very first boss heard my say “you guys” at some point and asked me not to use it again. I haven’t. I assumed it made me sound too Jersey (even though I don’t have any accent).
Now that I’m in the south, I’ll throw in a y’all if I think it will work with the audience.
“You guys” doesn’t bother me, but I stay away from it since it apprears to annoy some people.