(Closed) SPINOFF: Keeping dogs outside?

posted 2 months ago in Pets
  • poll: Do you think dogs belong outside or inside the home?
    Outside : (11 votes)
    10 %
    Inside : (58 votes)
    50 %
    Given a choice via dog door : (46 votes)
    40 %
  • Post # 31
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    699 posts
    Busy bee

    My parents keep their two dogs and two cats outside. They come in from time to time, but only one of the dogs ever sleeps inside and that’s not regularly. I personally don’t think I’d keep my own dog outside although I do not consider myself a dog person so I may never even have one of my own. My cat is a wimpy breed, so you don’t let the outside, but even if she wasn’t, I’d never let her roam. 

    Post # 32
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    Helper bee
    • Wedding: August 2019

    Inside, with plenty of access to a backyard (if possible). I grew up in a family where dogs were our “siblings”, and Fiance and I refer to each other as mom and dad with our pets. They sleep in bed with is, and lay on the couch with us. That being said, my grandpa always kept 2-4 hunting dogs, and they were backyard dogs (with an indoor kennel), and they did fine. While my thoughts are that pets are meant to be pampered and adored, I do acknowledge that plenty of people have working dogs, and as long as they’re not single dogs exposed to the elements (as in, no access to a climate controlled area in case of extreme heat or cold), I don’t think they’re being abused (even if I do want to take them and plop them on the couch with me). 

    Post # 33
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    840 posts
    Busy bee

    ariesscientist :  I agree with much of your post. As far as crate training goes, I do have to offer an alternative perspective. On the whole, I’m against crating for long periods of time. My dogs are never left alone in their crates longer than 8 hours (which is as long as they can comfortably hold it while in a resting state). During the day while I’m at work, I have a dog sitter who comes by to let them out. 

    I simply cannot have four dogs out of the crate in my house safely while I am not there to supervise. I’m not talking about my furniture… they’re not destructive dogs. But for one, I have a cat. They get along famously with the cat, but I have heard too many stories about dogs who have gotten along with the cat and then killed the cat when the pet parents were out of the house. Likewise, they’re dogs with unique personalities, and two are rescues with difficult backgrounds. They get into scuffles probably once per week. The dog combinations vary, as do the triggers. Two of them got into a snarling, knock-down dragout because one poked the other when she wasn’t in the mood. They hadn’t scuffled in months.

    So, while none of my dogs had never harmed another while I’m present, what if I weren’t there to intervene? I’ve had a friend come home to one dog severely injured and the other one dead. I will not gamble with their lives.

    They happily go into their crates for a treat (and panic if they’re left out and see me leaving, actually), sleep and play with their crate-safe toys, and are ready for fetch and walk time as soon as I’m home from work. Some people may say I shouldn’t have four dogs if they need to be crates to manage them, but I like to think they’re pretty thrilled with their pampered little lives, especially my rescues. 

    Post # 34
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    Sugar bee

    happiekrappie :  “…another bee stated that in non-Anglo societies, dogs are typically kept outside, and having dogs inside is more of a western thing.” 

    Just wanted to mention that Western cultures are not only Anglo.

    Post # 37
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    821 posts
    Busy bee
    • Wedding: September 2019 - City, State

    I would rather see a dog being able to run free in a yard than crated in a house during the day. Just my thought on that. 

    Post # 38
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    Buzzing Beekeeper
    • Wedding: October 2013

    dogs were once wild animals that humans domesticated for their own purpose.

    my dog is crated all day long while we are at work.  i;m sure he would be much happier if he had a fenced in yard to run around outside. but this is our situation.

    outside or inside doesn’t make either owner a bad pet owner.

     

    Post # 39
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: June 2016

    I’m a pretty die-hard dog owner. My girl has 3 memory foam beds around the house so that she can lie in comfort (plus dogs prefer to move between sleeping spots throughout the day/night so i like to give her options). She gets the best quality food, she gets a dog walker every day (plus walks on either side of our working hours). She is SPOILED.

    In her perfect world, she would probably be happiest with a cozy waterproof, insulated shelter outside with a very large comfy bed with 5 acres to roam with a doggy pal and for us to come hang out at her place a couple hours a day.

    Unfortunately for her – she will never get that set up as we live in the suburbs. She makes do with a small yard, 3 daily walks, and my parent’s 1 acre fenced backyard to protect from rabbits on the weekends when we visit.

    My parent’s dog would spiral into a deep depression if she was an outdoor dog. She NEEDS to be around her people – preferably touching them at all times. 

    So my opinion on inside/outside is that it’s whatever works best for the dog. Do I think there are lots of outdoor dogs that would be happier as indoor? Yes. Do I think there are indoor dogs that would prefer to be outdoor dogs? Yes.

    I think what’s more important is that the comfort, needs, and health of the dog are being met to a quality standard. End of story. 

    Post # 40
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: May 2015

    I shared my perspective on the other thread but some more context: I grew up in a temperate climate, on a large property with my family (multigenerational). We always had dogs and they never came inside the house – that would be unimaginable.

    We had an outdoor kennel (we didn’t call it that) and we were with the dogs all the time because we had a large outdoor living space. We never bought or “rescued” a dog, they were just strays or dogs that my siblings and cousins brought home when their friend’s dogs had puppies. The dogs weren’t working animals but they weren’t family, either – they were companions. Caring for them was a chore that kids were responsible for, although my grandfather had “his” dog that he babied. This was absolutely the norm and I never knew anyone who had dogs inside the house before I moved to the States. 

     

    Post # 41
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: August 2018

    I commented on the other post already, but I’ll say it again- definitely inside. Of course, getting dogs proper excersize and letting them run around in the year is great. I feel bad that I don’t have a yard for my dogs to run wild in, but I could never imagine leaving my dogs outside for the majority of their lives, even if I had the outside space for them. Especially if it were just one dog by itself.

    My dogs are small, so it’s obviously easier to have them inside but I grew up with large dogs who could go roam around our property but would always come back and sleep inside with us.

    Post # 42
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: December 2009

    I have two different experiences, so I’ll address both.

    When I was a kid, our dogs were outdoor dogs.  My dad was gone M-F for work, we lived in the middle of no where rural CO, and obviously my dad traveling for work, my mom was home alone with young kids.  Us kids adored the pets, but I think to my parents, while they loved the pets, they saw them as more practical and for protection reasons (mainly keeping bears & mountain lions away).  As I got older and more aware, I started to bring in the dogs at night, during the colder months.  They HATED it.  At that point, they were true outdoor dogs and despised being cooped up.  They wanted to be outside roaming at all times.  As a side note, we had no close neighbors, so our dogs having free roam was not an issue.  While it was not how I would have chosen to do things, I can’t say I blame my parents given the circumstances.

    As an adult, my dog is strictly indoors.  If we are home and the weather is nice, we leave the backdoor open for her go in and out as she pleases.  If it is the weekend and we just need her out of our hair so we can clean, mop, etc., we will put her outside for a few hours, but she is never left outside when we are not home.  My sister stays at our house when we are away and was laughing (in a funny give a sibling a hard time sort of way) when I was explaining our dog’s routine:  “So, at night, she will tell you when she wants to go to bed.  Just go into the room, pull back the covers for her to lay down and then tuck her in.  Make sure you tell her you love her.”  We seriously have the most spoiled dog in the world.

    We actually feel bad that our dog doesn’t get more outside time.  We’ve talked about getting a storage shed and using half for storage and then block off the other half to make an awesome dog house.  (Think man cave/she shed only for our dog).  That way she can be outside if she wants during the day, but have all the comforts of home in her fancy doghouse, but that’s a ways down the road.  

    Post # 43
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    Honey bee
    • Wedding: November 1999

    I live in Australia and it’s pretty common to have dogs be both inside and outside dogs.

    We grew up with a huge and very affectionate doberman who would go stir crazy being in the house for longer than 20 minutes. He’d bark at the door when he was ready to go outside then he’d do bog laps of my parents 400 square meter backyard and then when he was tired he’d come up the stairs onto the veranda outside our kitchen door and sit on the mat where he was able to survey the goings on inside the house whilst also watching the goings on of the neighbours and side street. When he wanted to come inside with us for 20 minutes he’d make a particular bark to say open up the door please which we would.

    He was very loved and very much part of our family and he honestly preferred being outside where he could chase birds and butterflies, dig up bones he’d hidden in the garden and lie in the sand barking at the earthworms he’d have fun digging up.

    I totally disagree with many people on here saying that keeping dogs outside is cruel. Keeping our dog inside for the majority of the day would have been cruel to him, as he loved the outdoors more than being inside with us 24/7. Most people love their pets and know them well enough to make decisions that works best for all involved.

    I have a grey and they have a doggie door but they still enjoy spending the day outside under our patio and getting up to do the occasional zoomies on the lawn. When we are home our grey spends more time indoors either sleeping next to where we are or following me around like a shadow or using me as a place to lean on if I make the mistake of standing in one spot for more than a minute. 😉

    Post # 44
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    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: June 2015

    dutchiebee :  “I think it is barbaric to keep dogs outside. I have no respect for those who do”

     there is is no logic to this, only emotion. And you’re forcing your own culture on others by claiming it. What about dogs like huskies who get far too warm for comfort in a normal human household? What about dogs who beg to be outside? What about literal sheep herding dogs and the like? What about native Americans who need a watchdog but live in small hogans with extended family and have no room for a dog as well? There is nothing barbaric in that. 

    Post # 45
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: September 2020

    I think this 100% depends on the dog. Some dogs prefer to be outside while others prefer to be inside. And if the dog is like mine, they prefer to be on top of you! I feel like he’d crawl INSIDE OF ME if he could. 

    If you have the proper set up for your dog to be comfortable and safe outside and you let it inside when it asks I truly see no problem in keeping your dog outside. 

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