Post # 1
after reading the topic about would you want to know if someone in your life was racist (but ‘in the closet’ so to speak)
i wondered how many bees have experienced racism or bigotry in any form, either to themselves or someone they care about.
Me, i think twice in my life. Once in London…where i was with my friend and a BNP (a political party in UK) idiot announced he thought all foreigners and non white people should get out the country.
and the second time…in houston. I’m english but live in mexico but right now im on a tourist visa, so i have to go to the US every 6 months and i got talking to someone who made a lot of offensive comments abotu me having a mexican fiance. I do get that illegal immigrants are a bad thing – but not all mexicans are illegal immigrants and most in mexico dont want to live in US.while i was smoking my cigarette the highlights included
“how do you even talk to him? its just sex right?do you pay him for sex?”
“god, you must have to pay for everything as mexicans dont like to work. but youre not from the US, he cant get a green card from you”
and so much more. i mean, she was very very drunk and i was pathetic – deer frozen in the headlights gently refuting her absurd claims when i should have told her to f off. i cant do confrontation…and i was so damn shocked i just sat there like a complete idiot. and im sure shes not representative of houston…but still, i dont want to go back there
anyone else experience bigotry/racism?!
Post # 3
Sadly yes, but not from my own generation, only older.
Post # 4
I knew a guy once who joined the marines because “After seeing what they did on 9/11 I knew I had to go to Iraq to teach them a lesson.”
Ugh. Don’t get me started.
Anyway, he would get really angry if he had to talk to anyone who was Middle Eastern.
Another guy I knew hated Muslims. Only, he didn’t know the difference between, well, any of the races of color. So he’d be making fun of the ‘horrible Muslims’, when clearly this perfectly nice and normal family was Hindu. Also, just wtf. He aso hated gay men. he was a big, ignorant mess. That was kind of a convoluted way of explaining it, but it’s hard to sort it out, since he had no idea about race/religion and so on.
I’ve also known a few people who are uncomfortable around gay men, which skeeves me out.
ETA: OH! I had a long conversation about how I don’t have health insurance and how that sucks. I was talking about how I’d like universal healthcare. The family member I was talking to told me it’s because all the illegal Mexicans would mooch it all up, so that’s why I can’t have it. Oh, and another convo where “All Muslims are evil.”
It made me SO angry.
Post # 5
- Wedding: May 2013 - Canal St Inn
@newname_99: My brother actually very recently experienced extremely overt racism from my grandmother’s ex-husband. He’s very ill, his family won’t take care of him, and she feels responsible since no one else will step up, even though him living with her is taking a toll. She called my brother to come help take care of him for a few weeks while she had some renovations done, though they told her ex that my brother was there to help fix stuff. I forget exactly how their conversation started, but my brother called me in near tears after an argument with him, mostly over his ignorant racist comments. For example, he said any black person who doesn’t follow the law of the land should go back to Africa. When my brother responded that following that logic, Native Americans should have sent us packing back to Europe about 5 centuries ago. But of course, he says, “Well, that’s different!” And this continued for about three more days. He told my brother a story about a black woman who he used to work with, whom he referred to as “a good n***er” who “knew her place.” My brother held his tongue for as long as he could, apologized to my grandmother, and left the next day, but not after letting into him, most deservedly. People are funny creatures sometimes.
Post # 6
@joya_aspera: but in a way, i can almost understand it more if its someone very old. It horrifies me more when its someone my own age (late 20s) because i feel theyshould know better.
like my grandma,she had always lived in a tiny village in north yorkshire. and when she came to london to visit us for the first time when i was around 9 she had her mouth open, “look at all the black people!!” (with us<shhh grandma, you cant say things like that>. as she genuinely hadnt seen anyone not white as it was really really rural. i mean,she thought people outside her village were ‘foreign’ and gave my mum hell for wanting ‘things above her station’ to be a lawyer in london. and frankly, before she passed, the village had been preserved in time for decades. any views she held were somehow less offensive to me
Post # 7
My conservative religious family (mostly just one of the oldest aunts) is awfully bigoted towards homosexuals. And anyone who dare “live in sin.” None of us nieces and nephews bring our partners around the greater family until long after we’re married for fear of scorn!
And then my batshit crazy nephew Brian (who is in his early 30s)… I have never met anyone more racist and bigoted. He served in the military (though we believe he was dishonorably discharged, but we’re not sure), and has all sorts of nasty things to say about Muslims or anyone else from that general region. And Democrats. Oh, he could bash Democrats for just as long. Actually, he could bash on anyone other than himself since he is the only perfect human being on this Earth.
Ah, Christmas time is always full of lively conversations!
Post # 8
Yep. My dad is extremely racist. He always told me that I wasnt allowed to date outside my race…. Funnily enough, I’m now engaged to a black guy and he actually supports it. He’s grown soft in his old age.
One of my customers has the title of most racist person I’ve ever met though. I cannot stand him. Everytime he comes in the store, if theres someone else there thats foreign then he’ll make fun of them right there to their face. He’s constantly going on about how white Americans are the only people worth anything. He once said something to me about my Fiance being black and I ripped into him so bad, he wont even look at me anymore.
Post # 9
I grew up in Texas, so I was surrounded by it, constantly. It was a big part of why I moved to Boston and then the Bay Area!
Post # 10
I don’t like to get into details, because they are painful to think about, but I’ve had a lot of people act in ways that are racist towards me…even very seemingly innocuous things can be hurtful when people don’t think through what they’re saying. I’m not just talking about older people… It got to be that I would immediately put my guard up when talking with anyone white. I’m working on that and have gotten a lot better.
ETA: Since I’ve moved to San Antonio, I don’t see it as much, but that may be because the city is largely minority.
Post # 11
I’ve been followed in stores, accused of stealing a guy’s credit card when I worked in retail, and called slurs. And that’s just racial. I’ve encountered a ridiculous amount of biphobia too. The worst was from a “friend” in high school who refused to hug me or my girlfriend because she was convinced she would “catch the gay.”
Post # 12
I have a co-worker who (while not racist) is extremely homophobic.
And whenever anyone comes in the store who doesn’t seem to fit perfectly into a gender role (a woman with a shaved head and guy clothes, a guy who is too clean cut, or even someone who has the wrong mannerisms), she mutters “faggot” under her breath and I have to shoot glares at her to make her shut her mouth.
After the customers leave, I will then go on about the latest Harry/Draco slashfic that I read in amazing detail until she walks away.
Post # 13
@Regina Phalange: The Gay? it’s contagious now?
Post # 14
I’d LOVE to see her back up her idea that Mexicans don’t like to work. – .-
@rosworms: Margaret Cho did a great bit on “The Gay.” ‘My mom used to give me messages like this: “Ummmmmmm…Scott called…IS HE THE GAY??!!” “Well, God, mom, I don’t know if he’s the gay…that’s a lot of pressure on just one guy. He has to do the parade all by himself! ‘I’m here! I’m queer!…I guess I’m the only one.'”‘
Post # 15
@rosworms: Ironically, I heard she has a girlfriend now, so maybe it is! 😛
Post # 16
Some of my family… I can not tell you how many times I have fought with my family when they are talking badly about Mexicans… My daughters are half Mexican and Fi is Mexican (he is the father to our kids) about 1/3rd of my family is not even invited to the wedding because I know it would be a HUGE disaster…