Post # 1
Any bees tried scalp training? Anyone experience success?
My hair is the worst. It’s naturally a dirty blonde color (not dyed in years, all virgin since), very thin and very fine. It is longish, a little past my collarbone. It’s oily…like, really oily. As in, I washed my hair this morning and twelve hours later it was NOTICEABLY greasy and gross.
I have been trying to extend my time between washings for about a week. I’m only trying at this point to go a day between, so shampooing the scalp and conditioning the ends every other day. I was using dry shampoo, but I’m trying not to do that as I’ve read it can be counterproductive to the “scalp training” process and lead to clogged hair follicles.
Do you think this whole thing is a myth? Am I just genetically doomed to fail, here? Any suggestions or stories you’d care to share?
These are the products I’m using:
Living Proof Perfect Hair Day shampoo and conditioner (sulfate and silicone free)
Batiste or Living Proof dry shampoo (I prefer the latter but it’s pricey)
Post # 2
Yep I have tried it on and off for many years and now seem to be in a good place with it. Finally. I only wash my hair with conditioner and only once a week. I ‘wash’ my hair with water only in between if I feel I need to and use dry shampoo as sparingly as possible.
It has taken a really long time but I’m finally getting there I think! I only use a diffuser on my hair, no curling irons, straighteners etc. And my hair is wavy/curly which I think is a huge factor too. Try washing it only twice a week with conditioner only would be my advice. And rinse it out with only luke warm water and finish washing it with almost cold water. Also rinse out for 3 times as long as you think you need to and ensure that from root to tip your hair squeaks.
Post # 3
Yeah I also have extremely oily hair and I don’t believe scalp training is real. You can stretch washes to some extent, but there’s not much you can do to change your actual genetics and hormones. Your body is wired to produce a certain amount of oil and most of that is internal and unrelated to what you do externally (ie. Washing your hair).
I used to wash my hair every day for the majority of my life because I am an absolute grease ball in terms of scalp and skin all over my body. Years ago I switched to washing every other day because I was sick of washing my hair all the time. To be honest, my hair still hasn’t adjusted. On the second day it’s always disgustingly greasy. And I don’t use harsh shampoos, I use a natural organic shampoo that is gentle but still cleans well without harshly stripping my hair. That is what works best for oily hair – nothing moisturising but not overly stripping either.
I will always have very greasy hair and not washing it isn’t going to change that for me and I don’t believe it will for you either. I read hair forums a lot and there’s this thing called “sebum only” where people don’t ever wash or even wet their hair and just let it do its thing so it can hopefully “adjust” over time and “self-cleanse”. Well there are people who have been doing this for years and what they have found is that no, hair does not ever gain the ability to “self-cleanse”. The oiliness of your hair doesn’t change – it’s your mind that changes. Oily hair becomes your new normal and it doesn’t seem so dirty anymore because you don’t remember what it feels like to have washed hair.
So definitely try washing only every other day but don’t expect that you’re going to become one of those people who only has to wash their hair once a week. If you can get away with washing your hair once a week you never had oily hair in the first place.
Post # 4
I’m sorry you’ve not had a great experience but that doesn’t negate mine 😂 I have had a huge change in my hair and how greasy it is and I’m certainly not just used to having horrible hair now. It does take more work than just washing it everyday like I used to but it’s been really worth it for me.
Please try to keep your experiences just to you and not try and tell other people what is or isn’t true for them based purely on that.
Post # 5
I have oily skin and finally, finally I got it to work for me. Only wash my hair once every 3 or 4 days now.
This is going to sound stupid – but wearing a shower cap made a big difference. I know how odd that is. I slowly went from a day to two and then to 3.
I also switched to a shampoo without parabens or sulfates – I use Hask. It’s been a 2+ year process. I initially used Apple Cider Vinegar with water but it wasn’t really yielding good results.
Post # 6
For the record, i have never heard of anyone who went no shampoo regret it. So i have absolutely no idea where pp got her info. I’m 4 months no poo and loving it. I tried the once a week washing and it didn’t work for me personally. It made my hair feel worse. But not long after stopping all together is when i noticed a positive change.
Post # 7
I have fine, super oily hair and I tried to train it for 12 months while on maternity leave. Didn’t work for me.
Post # 8
I’ve been hair training and I’ve gotten to where I can go 3 to 5 days between washes! I have alot of hair and it’s long. It would also get really oily.
Look up Jasmine Rae Hair Co on Instagram or Facebook! She has highlight bubbles on Instagram that talk about hair training and how to properly wash your hair l and just a bunch of other useful hair things! She helped me a ton! I think she went like 20 days between washes.
Also I think part of it is getting your hair use to the new normal of only washing it every other day or whatever your goal is.
Post # 9
I had tried it before and always gave up. My hair is so oily (my skin too). I thought it was a myth that you could train hair.
Recently I tried again, and stuck it out, and I’ve been successful. I used to wash my hair daily. Now I wash it every other day or every 3 days, depending on how I feel. I do use dry shampoo, and I used it while training my hair, though I did have days I forgot and just went around without it. Since Covid, I work from home now and we can’t really go anywhere or do much, so I’m even more lax with the dry shampoo. I don’t think it messed with my training my hair.
I do double cleanse, so when I do wash my hair, I shampoo twice. The first time with Sauve clarifying shampoo to get out any products or dry shampoo. The second tile, I use a more gentle shampoo. I only shampoo the top part of my hair. I only condition the bottom 2/3. I wear a shower cap on days I don’t wash my hair.
I also love Living Proof dry shampoo. I’m trying the Billie one now and it works for me too, and is a bit cheaper. There was also one at Walmart called Colab dry shampoo (unicorn scent) and it was cheap and worked well, though the scent was difficult for me to deal with, and I’m not sure if that’s because I’m pregnant, or because it’s just way too strong of a scent.
Post # 10
I have! But not intentionally. I just ended up stretching shampoos because I was too busy and/or lazy 🙈
I also use Living Proof PhD shampoo (absolutely love that stuff). For dry shampoo, I use Living Proof or Drybar.
Like a PP, I only condition the bottom 2/3 of my hair and wear a shower cap when showering on a non-shampoo day. I have long, side-swept bangs and try to keep them off my face by pinning them back when possible.
I usually go every 5 days or so between washes. A little longer these days since I haven’t been doing much outside the house.
Post # 11
I have! I also have fine blonde hair so I feel you. You just have to give it time…..a lot of time. Try skipping conditioner and just use a really light spray conditioner after the shower if you need it. If you regularly brush your hair with a bristle brush it will help distribute your natural oils and lessen the need for conditioner. Having straight fine hair is very different from curly girls – “washing” with just conditioner is going to make it worse.
Also remember that your perception of greasy is more sensitive than what other people see because your hair looks darker when it’s dirty. But looking darker doesn’t actually equate to looking super greasy!
Lastly – fine light hair just isn’t going to make it a week plus between washes no matter what you do. I think that’s an unrealistic goal. I can go 3 (4 MAX if I’m not having to look super presentable) but that’s still a time savings over when I used to havr to wash it every day.
Post # 12
To those who do this – HOW do you keep your scalp from smelling bad??? I can easily go 4 – 5 days without shampooing and my hair still looks good. But I can smell my scalp – do you just have to continue to rinse your hair daily? I worked with a woman who didn’t wash her hair often, and I could smell it 10 feet away! It was pretty gross and I assume she couldn’t smell it because she was used to it. That made me paranoid about my hair smelling even worse than I could detect. I started using a dry shampoo just to keep the smell pleasant, but not sure if that ended up as a weird light scent with funky scalp bottom notes – lol.
Post # 13
Not sure if this is scalp traning, but I used to wash my hair every day or every other day and now I wash it every 6-8 days. It probaby helps that I have medium-long thick hair. I usually use some dry shampoo on day 5+ depending on what I’m doing. I’ve been doing this for several years but if I recall, it took a while (over a month) to adjust to this schedule.
My hair was grossly greasy when I went over 3 or 4 days the first time, but you just need to power through. Washing less has let me grow my hair longer, especially since its heavily bleached – I’m naturally medium brown and now a blonde.
I giggled a bit when you say you want to save on shampoo because even with hair past my bra strap, a standard bottle of shampoo lasts me 9+ months. Unless its super dirty/smoky, I generally only wash my roots and then let the suds when I rinse “wash” the rest of my hair. Conditioner and hair oil is another story!
Post # 14
I wash about every 4-5 days usually. I have learned that once it gets pretty greasy (usually night 3 or 4), I will brush my hair with a boars brush before I go to bed so that it pulls the oils off my scalp and redistributes it. Then the next morning I use a dry shampoo and I am good to go! I still usually wear it up in a ponytail or clio at that point, but it is still manageable and feels like day 2/3 hair all over again.
Post # 15
Ew I know exactly the smell you’re talking about! Yes, I run water over it in between shampoo days 😅. Been using living proof phd shampoo and conditioner for a year now and I have gone 3 weeks without a shampoo. I have fine blonde hair and use to struggle with oiliness too. Rinsing with water on of days is crucial imo.