Post # 1
The article is here
How do you bee’s feel about this? Do you think surrogates should have the option of going against the biological parent’s wishes?
Personally I do not.
This article infuriated me at the fact that this girl “Crystal” is being made into somewhat of a “hero” when in my opinion, she isn’t.
She finds out that the child has severe birth defects and decides she is going to keep the fetus because the parents wouldn’t pay 15,000 instead of 10,000. She masks this by saying she “changed her mind anyways”.
She then finds out about a state where she would have legal rights and moves to gain those rights over the biological parents.
If I were the biological parents I’d be horrified.
Do you think the surrogates should be entitled to make a decision (abortion) that trumphs the biological parents choice?
Post # 3
I don’t think so.. espicially if there’s a written contract.
The parents of the child are basically renting the surrogates uterus.. and considering large birth defects is a HUGE responsibility, I can totally understand why they would want to abort.
But that’s just my opinion.
I am also, in NO WAY for abortion, however I think there are certain cases where abortion certainly is the best for everyone involved.
Post # 4
If the fetus is not the surrogates biological child (i.e. using their egg with the couples sperm) and/or the parents have a written contract; I don’t think the surrogate has any say over whether it should be aborted or not. As long as it doesn’t harm the surrogate in any way, the parents get to decide what to do with their own child. Period.
Post # 5
It’s her body, without which the child would not exist in the first place. Such is the risk when you hire a surrogate to carry your baby. It doesn’t give anyone the right to pay her to abort, regardless of how she went about it. Not sure why people are so up in arms about this story, if we want people to be able to “choose”, well, this is choice in action.
Post # 6
Makes me wonder would they have wanted the abortion had the “egg donor” been carrying the child?? Sad and at 5 months?
Post # 7
Moral issues aside, it’s almost like taking your car into the shop and finding out it’s been totaled. The shop owner decides HE now has rights to YOUR car and wants to keep it. That’s ridiculous. I know a baby is not a car or piece of property and is HUGELY different, but the principal is the same. Crazy.
Post # 8
I think it would have been a much bigger issue if it were the opposite way. The surrogate wanted to abort and the parents to be did not.
I don’t think this is a problem, as long as the parents to be are not stuck with any responsibility. If the surrogate wants to have the child, I think she should have that choice.
It’s probably best if everyone involved had these discussions before any procedures were done!
Post # 9
@RiverBride13: Sticking with that analogy, I would go with it differently.
The car is written off and cannot be sold for parts. For it to be disposed of, an environmental fee would have to be paid to the mechanic, but he still has to go through the proper channels to do it. The owner agrees to pay this fee, but the mechanic says don’t worry about paying that fee as he will keep it and find worth from it in another way.
Post # 10
What an unusual situation.
I really don’t know what to say about it because it is so odd. Normally it is the mother’s decision, but who is the mother in this instance? It’s shared. This kind of eventuality (fetus has severe defects, what will be done?) needs to be discussed and agreed upon by all parties before the commitment is made. After that, they are all bound by that agreement.
I’m inclined to think it was the biological parents’ right to terminate. They now have to live with the fact that a biological child of theirs exists in the world with severe defects. It’s a heavy ethical weight on a parent’s shoulders, in their position I’d feel obligated to the child no matter the legal responsibility, and if the child is in pain I’d blame myself. That’s not fair for her to do to them.
Post # 11
Oh my freaking goodness and after all that she abandoned the poor baby. I think she is a horrible person (the surrogate). Really horrible.
Post # 12
Yes she should get a vote. What if she’s catholic and is against abortion? This is something that should have been adressed before now.
It ‘s her body right … a WOMENS CHOICE .. how can you be infuriated? how dare you.
Post # 13
@HisIrishPrincess: I do believe she should have had a right to say she will not abort under any circumstances no matter how badly the baby might suffer…. BEFORE they entered into the agreement.
That she forced this couple to be biological parents to a baby that is suffering, and then abandoned the baby because it is too much work for her, that’s really terrible. That was the final straw to me. If she thought bringing the baby into the world was more important than the baby’s suffering, she should have put it above her own suffering too and done every last thing she could possibly do for the rest of her life to make that baby’s life as good as possible.
Post # 14
BFD she has cleft pallet? SO what .. I have a cousin that has had 15 surgeries to correct hers.. are you sugesting her mother should have termintated .. wait let’s use the proper terms… her mother should have had an abortion?
SO who determines the baby is “suffering” ? you .. me the parents?
Post # 15
@HisIrishPrincess: It is not just a cleft palette 🙁 They expected her to have many physical deformities… including cleft palette, brain cyst and severe heart defects… and when she was born, she was in even worse condition than they origially had anticipated… including that her brain is not divided into two distinct hemispheres, and many of her internal organs are in the wrong places. This baby is going to go through countless surgeries and will probably be in physical pain for as long as she lives, which I assume isn’t going to be that long.
Post # 16
@AB Bride: See, I think the parents ARE stuck with responsibility. Another PP mentioned that they now are forced to live with the fact that they have a biological child somewhere out there who has very severe birth defects. They have to live with that and take on the fact that perhaps this child will come looking for them one day wanting answers or being heartbroken at the fact that they were born unwanted and shoved into the system. It’s sad to me that these parents had their rights to THEIR own child, stripped away from them by a seemingly greedy surrogate.
@joya_aspera: The thing is, in the article it mentions that this was in agreement between the couple and the surrogate. However a “pro life” lawyer has it dismissed because of the mothers right to choose” with her own body.
I’m pro choice x 10000 billion but when you have someone ELSES child in your body and you willingly put it there…then yeah you don’t get to play “mother” and decide what happens to it over the biological parents.
@HisIrishPrincess: Why don’t you educate yourself and actually read the article. The surrogate was NOT catholic and offered to take 15k to do the abortion. As for it being addressed before the pregnancy..yeah again READ THE ARTICLE. It was decided. I’ve seen you commenting on these threads before and you tend to just blast right past the OP’s or articles so maybe you should idk…read?