Teacher bees – Do you want to be armed?

posted 2 years ago in The Lounge
Post # 16
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Blushing bee

Oh thank goodness. I’m Canadian, so does not quite apply.

BUT: I saw on Instagram a teacher who stood against having guns, and all the comments were opposed to the post! I was terrified! All the comments were basically saying the same thing: “Don’t speak for me – I’ll be armed and trained to shoot if I have to.”

It was so strange. I understand wanting to protect your students, but the way to protect students  (AND EVERYBODY) is to make a genuine, major change… I thought.

The world seems so messed up right now. I can’t even fathom…

 

Adding: as a teacher, no, I would not want to be armed.  IF I must, because I still love teaching and working with kids, I would, but I would not be for it.

Post # 17
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: August 2018

I’m a NYC high school administrator. I have about 1300 students, and around 100 staff members that all need to be safe every school day. There has been several tragedies because of mass shootings in schools, churches, movie theaters, concerts, etc. and this president suggests arming teachers? Should we also arm pastors? Should we arm movie theater staff? Should we arm artists that have concerts? 

Arming more people is not the answer. We need to arm less people, and keep guns out of the hands of psychos! I will never stand for any educator to be armed. This is just beyond ridiculous!

Post # 18
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: June 2016

Absolutely not. That’s a no for me, and a no from my teacher Darling Husband. We’re both down to go find higher paying, less stressful jobs if that’s going to become more common.

Post # 19
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: June 2016

 

Post # 20
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: March 2017

Yeah I know several teachers & none of them want to be armed. I live in Alabama and there actually is a bill to be voted iin our state house regarding arming teachers so it’s a definite reality here. I think this is one of the worst ideas I have ever heard. Like one teacher friend on facebook mentioned, she couldn’t even fathom having to shoot one of her students even if they posed a threat. Seems like a huge liability and it’s just not educator’s job to be armed. Don’t even get me started on this!

Post # 21
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2005 - A Castle

Can’t have peanuts in schools, but here, have this rifle. #logic 

Post # 22
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: November 2017

Also, as a side note, the amount of discrimination that black and minority students face in the school system from old/conservative-minded school staff is already terrifying enough without guns in the their hands. And since when it is a citizen’s duty to “put down” psychos? Get rid of the guns and get rid of the problem. I spit on the second amendment.

Post # 23
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Helper bee

Saw this on Facebook. I think it sums the issue up. 

Post # 24
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: June 2015

younikkitome :  in my county, which had a shooting just before Christmas that almost no one heard about nationally, the sheriff is considering this, independently of any national discussion. He would be asking for volunteers who would go through rigorous training and regular psychological evaluations.  They would then be deputized and be able to concealed carry in the school.  No trouble getting to it if it’s needed, they’d already be armed, not storing it in a cabinet.

when it comes down to it, I have no problem with this. Schools are a target because crazy people know that no one there can fight back. They are hopefully less likely to try if they know it isn’t ‘safe’ for them either.  After all, when is the last time someone shot up a police station?

That said, though I guard my gun rights fiercely, I wouldn’t volunteer for the program myself. I work with special needs kids. I’m all over the place, up, down, crawling, modeling movements, repositioning them… there is no way I could successfully conceal a weapon. They don’t need to know I’m armed, particularly those with psychological disorders.  I will leave it to others if the program gets put into place. And yes I will feel safer at work that way.

ETA: I am 100% for getting people the psychological help they need if that could stop this. So far they all have one commonality: they are dangerously insane.  These people needed help and/or refused it. I’d like to see that change.

Post # 25
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2018 - Location

I’m a high school teacher in Canada. I don’t understand how this is even being discussed. It is illogical and has nothing to do with the actual issue… It’s the opposite of a solution.

NO! 

Post # 26
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: June 2018

Absolutely not. There are just too many factors involved in that decision, outside of the fact that it’s just plain stupid. How about this… Instead of giving a bonus to carrying teachers, why don’t we use that money to hire more school social workers and psychologists? Because they are so bogged down with their caseloads that there are actual WAITING LISTS kids are on to get help. Clearly the supply and demand is out of balance here. The majority of a school psych’s job is meetings. Not working with kids, but meetings about kids. That’s not any fault of theirs, just a failure within the system. How about we use that money to hire more school counselors? Many high schools have a student-counselor ratio of 500-1. How can one person provide any realistic help when they have a load of 500 kids to provide for? Answer is…they can’t. Many counselors are strapped so thin that their main job is schedule changes. Not a fault of theirs, but the system. People who think arming teachers will solve the problem are woefully ignorant. The problem is within the system, and until we give kids the emotional support that they need, the problem WILL persist. 

Post # 27
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Busy bee

Earlier this month, there was a case where a third grader stuck his finger into an on-site police officer’s holster without him noticing and discharged it. Accidents happen and kids can be dumb. Having weapons around just increases the risk. 

I grew up in a “bad neighborhood.” When I was in school, cops and security were often called in to break up fights. Some brave teachers would take it upon themselves too. The worst they ever carried was mace. What if, when breaking up a fight, a kid accidentally knocked or grabbed a loaded gun?  What if they purposefully grabbed for it? 

Post # 29
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Bumble bee

I’m not a teacher, but I’m a mental health therapist in middle and high schools.  I personally WOULD NOT EVER consider being armed on the job.  Frankly, if teachers are to be armed, or if I am asked or expected to be armed, I will leave the field.  

Post # 30
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Bee Keeper

Trump won’t address the real solution to this problem because all of his gun toting tycoon friends and endangered species-shooting relatives value their Good-Old-Boys-Club privilege more than they value human life. 

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