(Closed) Teacher Bees… I need to vent!

posted 7 years ago in Career
Post # 47
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2014 - Prague

I’m a teacher and I know exactly how you feel. If they didn’t do it on time, they’d get marked down. 

Post # 48
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: January 2014

I’m an ESL teacher who works abroad…

At my last school I taught adults and children.  I would give all levels little homework assignments which they would never do.  A lot of the homework were things like watching English TV show clips on u-tube for 15 minutes.  Are you serious?  You can’t watch a video for a few minutes?  I tried hard to find things they would enjoy doing for homework but no dice.  I even tried to get them to join different forums if they were advanced so they could type English which would have been good practice but no.  I would ask them every day if they did their homework and the answer was always no.  I actually left the job because the students not listening was driving me crazy.

Realistically I don’t know what people are thinking when a teacher asks them to do homework and they flat out don’t do it.  I don’t get it.

Post # 49
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: April 2015

At my old school, if you didn’t complete assignments and didn’t have a valid documented reason, all hell would break loose. Parent meetings, extracurricular coaching, and special study to develop organizational skills. If someone consistently handed in half assed assignments, their parents would be given the option to board the kid or find another school. 

I don’t think these policies were effective because it resulted in a lot of stressed out students with guilt complexes, but handing out a passing grade for a missed assignment is also not good.  Being a teacher sounds incredibly hard. 

Post # 50
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: June 2013 - Upstate NY

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@Rubbs: Upper level high school teacher here! Agreed-  they don’t study. High school curriculum simply is not engaging, challenging and relevant to most of them as millenials. Think of how much we dumb stuff down for them so that just do it. Most material is tedious, insulting and uninteresting to them (gotta get the bottom feeders up to par) …. so they just don’t do it.  They also know mommy and daddy will just get them out of it (mom and dad are so cool, they’re like my best friend!!).

Silly children. College will be a bitch slap in the face. 

Post # 53
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2013

@Rubbs:  What grade do you teach?

I teach 7th, and my kids are notorious for not completing work. I teach math, so a lot of students take for granted that if they “got” it every year and scooted by without trying, that when they get to pre-algebra they’ll still “get” it without trying. Naturally it’s always my fault when they don’t try and start to fail!

I never offer extra credit, but they can always retake any exam to improve their score. (Of course, they won’t actually put forth any effort to retake it and just whine when I won’t let them do a color-by-number for extra credit. lol)

Post # 55
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: November 1999

@Rubbs:  I can’t believe they had the nerve to ask for extra credit especially with months given to complete it.  And I’m surprised you allowed for 50 points you are very generous 😉 Perhaps they took adavantage of that though…for some people that’s “good enough”, and don’t want to push to the best of their abilities. 

One thing I’ve learned is that like any of us deadlines are typically done last minute and the same goes for children. One thing that I’ve noticed that works is dividing the packet in parts ensuring that they are on task towards completing the assignment. Once again, it’s more work on us but in the end it’s easier to keep track on student’s worl. You could also grade along the way – also I would not give them the grade to all sections are complete (in case they feel liek they have a good enough grade and could now slack off for the other portions)it can also help you address problems earlier on. Unfortunately this generation is babied and parents seem to be on their side. I’m glad you stuck to your guns and did not allow for extra credit. They have to understand that things in life are not just handed to us. 

Post # 56
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2013

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@Rubbs:  That’s the one trait that surprises me the most about students, laziness. I can’t decide if it is because of the immediete gratificiation of our society that they fear failure, or the overstimulation that school is boring. I just don’t understand them!

Post # 59
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: November 1999

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@Rubbs:  I forgot some districts are implementing that that must be so frustrating. It sends the wrong messge that even if you don’t try at all you will still get something. 

Post # 60
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: City, State

@Rubbs:  Why would you only give them a 50 for not turning it in? They did no work and should get a zero. (I once got a zero on a test where I answered every question and showed my work– I earned that zero for a lack of studying and it has stuck with me sense)

 

You are totally in the right here.

ETA: By you, I mean the district.

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@KatiePi:  I totally agree about evaluations. It is 100% known that predicting teacher’s value added off of test scores only works when you have good tests. Most tests are not good assessments– they weren’t designed for that purpose. I get so annoyed when people tell me that my employer is pushing value added tests– nope. We are saying that it only works with the right tools and you don’t have them. For you, it is a completely shitty tool and I would encourage teachers to sue their districts if they get a poor evaluation. They’d win.

 

Post # 61
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: May 2014 - Beach

Another fellow teacher here 🙂 I teach Kindergarden. During the semester breaks we do booklets for the kids to take home to do so they don’t forget over the break. There are some drawings to be colore, number excersises, letter tracings and so on. Almost half of the class came back with either no booklets or have not worked on them at all!

We spent 3 weeks getting this booklet done and theyn after 2 months NOTHING!!

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