(Closed) Teacher discusses offensive opinions in class

posted 5 years ago in College
Post # 3
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: September 2014

@SouthernGirl:  Is this a history/economics/poli sci class? if not, I would probably talk to the chair and find out what’s acceptable by department standards. 

Post # 4
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2012

What subject does he teach? If it’s poli sci or econ, then it’s at least kind of relevant. If he’s in the middle of a math lecture and decides to talk about politics, that’s a little weird.

Post # 5
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Bee Keeper

@SouthernGirl:  Teachers should not talk about what their personal opinions are, especially bashing political figures. I would report him so he knows the difference between his JOB teaching and his personal LIFE.

Post # 7
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: September 2014

@SouthernGirl:  Yeah, even if you didn’t think what he said was offensive, it’s taking up class time that you’re paying for. 

Post # 8
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2012

He doesn’t get paid to preach his political views. That is a big no no in the classroom. I would talk to the department chair. What he is doing in uncalled for.

Post # 9
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: November 2013 - St. Augustine Beach, FL

Finish the class, then complain to the department chair.  Professors tend to find out when a student complains and you don’t want him to retaliate and damage your grade.  And it does depend on the type of class.  I would also check out rate my professors online and provide a review at the end of the semester to allow other students to have an idea of what type of professor he is.  I use the site when I am scheduling classes to find the better rated professors and avoid the boring ones as well as the ones that tend to go off subject (like your professor seems to do) during classes.

Post # 10
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2012

@SouthernGirl:  Yeah, that’s not ok. Does your school do class evaluations? I think writing in the comment section that you had this issue would be completely appropriate and not make you any enemies in the department. Complaining to the Chair, while possibly justified, probably would make you enemies in the department. 

Post # 11
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

I agree – wait for evaluations at the end of the year.

Post # 12
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: September 2013

I work at a university, so I am going to be honest with you: One student complaining will do no difference, especially if he is full-time or tenured and you are at a traditional 4 year college. Believe me, I hear the complaints up and down about professors and their lectures material. I send them to our head, but nothing can really be done. 

I hate being the downer on this. But do complain your heart out when you fill out his evaluation forms. Those do get read. 

Post # 13
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2012

Honestly? I would just ignore it. It’s not worth the fight in my opinion. In the “real” world, you may have a manager/whatever that does the same thing, and I wouldn’t think it would be a smart move to go to HR anytime you have an opinionated manager who spouts their political views. I just think learning to ignore other people’s obnoxious opinions is part of life!

Could you report him? Sure, but in academia, if he’s tenured, they really can’t do anything about it. So is it worth it IMHO? Nope.

ETA: for reference, I work at a University and a lot of people in academia are very political, so I think it’s something that eventually you learn to take in stride. Do I let their opinions influence me? No. Do they irritate me? Yes, but so does someone who snaps their gum loudly and I wouldn’t report that lol

Post # 14
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2012

@ohmybears48:  lol we were posting at the same time, great minds!

Post # 15
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: March 2012 - Pelican Grand Beach Resort

@happyface:  In general, I disagree with this blanket statement, but as for OP’s specific situation, I agree with you.

Teaching and professing do not exist in a bubble and I am constantly talking about topics in the ancient world that resonate today, so poltics do come up and that’s part of what makes studying the ancient world compelling. If I removed those components from my classes, I would take away a huge part of the important of the value in studying the ancient world. Given that, however, instructors shouldn’t be bashing their opinions into students or punishing and belittling students with a different point of view. I never directly advocate any policy, but my studens would have to have their brains completely shut off to not suspect that I lean liberal.

Post # 16
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: March 2012 - Pelican Grand Beach Resort

@ohmybears48:  At my university and the one I was educated at, evaluation comments are only ever read by the instructor. The bubble-sheet scores are kept by the university and are part of the instructor’s files, but the forms themselves are given in paper to the instructor never to be seen again.

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