(Closed) Teen kills 4 people, only get probation. WTF!!!

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Post # 3
9667 posts
Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: April 2019

@IzzyBear:  killed four people and only PROBATION?! WTF??!!! Wonder how much the judge/jury got paid to pass down that sentence…. “Oh it’s ok, you’re rich and don’t know any better, just probation and a comfortable life for you!” What happened to justice?!

ETA: and they say it’s because his parents taught him that wealth buys privilege, what does giving him probation instead of jail do then?! It only enforces that!! He will now learn that being wealthy means you can do pretty much anything you want, instead of learning consequences! Well done American justice system, well done.

Post # 4
720 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: October 2013

I heard about that too. How sad for all the victims and their families. You know if that had been a “regular” person, no dice on the sweet deal.

Post # 6
2086 posts
Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: June 2012 - Pippin Hill Farm & Vineyards

The arguement is that he was never taught that there are consequences to actions. So they further reinforced this by not making him suffer the consequences of his actions.

Now, let me pull out my DSM V and look up “affluenza.” Nope, not there.

A friend said that judge must have been on the take.


Post # 7
1777 posts
Buzzing bee

“special snowflake syndrome” to the nth degree.  Can’t be told no.  Can’t be held responsible for their own actions. 

Post # 8
3765 posts
Honey bee
  • Wedding: February 2013

@IzzyBear:  Read about this yesterday… I’m ashamed to live in this kind of world, let alone in the same state.

Post # 9
2363 posts
Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: September 2013 - B&B

This absolutely makes my heart hurt 🙁 Those poor victims and their poor families, dead or so seriously injured because of one person’s SELFISHNESS. Ugh!

Well, maybe not just ONE person… his parents too, perhaps…

Post # 10
2571 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: November 2013

@IzzyBear:  My God. I am so angry on behalf of the victims and their families. Just wow.

Post # 11
645 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2010


Post # 12
1248 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: April 2012 - Chateau Briand

I was waiting for someone to post about this. I was in shock when I read about it this morning. It’s disgusting what young people are being “taught” today. Where is the accountability for your actions? If they are not suffering consequences in a COURT after essentially KILLING four people, what the hell kind of rehabilitation could make them see they will be held accountable for their actions?! 

Post # 13
11747 posts
Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: November 1999

I honestly have no words about this. I get so angry just thinking about it.

Besides stating the obvious – that the way to teach a child about consequences and being held responsible for their actions, isn’t by not giving them any consequences.

It is truly sickening.  Given his age, I would *almost* understand giving him a lighter sentence, but still a sentence that required jail time. The kid doesn’t need rehab, he isn’t an alcoholic, he’s a stupid kid that made a bad choice.  I’d rather they blamed it on the lack of a fully formed brain at 16 then affluence. I recognize the role affluence plays in the whole thing, but it’s not an excuse and there’s no such thing as affluenza. 

If this was my kid, I’d be throwing them in jail myself if I could.  He didn’t just crash into someone and break someone’s leg or give them some bumps and bruises, he killed them. I don’t even understand what the hell this judge was thinking, other then he was paid off.

Post # 14
2602 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: September 2014

I don’t really know that this is an outrage to me. He’s only 16. He cannot get into any more trouble for the next ten years without facing jail time. It’s also entirely possible that he does have a heart and will carry the weight of this around for the rest of his life.

I drove intoxicated between the ages of 16-20 many, many times. I never hit anyone. That’s the only thing separating me from this boy. It’s hard to feel self-righteous indignation. Flushing his life down the tubes via 20 years in prison (what the prosecution was asking for) won’t bring back the people he killed.

My tune would change if there was documented court proceedings showing that he had no remorse or didn’t take this seriously. And, of course, if I was a family member of the victims. Sensitivity to them is important, but it doesn’t always make the best justice.

I will say that he should have gotten at least 2 years in a juvenile detention facility, but I do not agree with the 20 years the prosecution was asking for.

ETA: I think it’s important to separate this kid from his parents’ behavior and the psychologist who came up with “affluenza.” He’s not the one who designed his defense or paid anyone off. I also think the article states that he is not going home to his family after rehab.




Post # 15
12247 posts
Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: May 2013

The first time I saw someone use the term “affluenza” I commented “Wow, that’s a funny thing to call his defense!” And the girl went “No. That was his ACTUAL defense.”

And I died inside.

Post # 16
488 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: September 2014

I saw the article this morning and was in disbelief.  The court pretty much set a precedent that any youth who comes from wealth isn’t responsible for their actions because they’re able to have whatever they want financially and don’t hear the word no.  Are you joking me?  I am completely outraged for the families of those that were killed or injured.  The only thing I could think after reading that was how much did the judge get paid.

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