- 10 years ago
- Wedding: April 2010
@Bluespurs Ha! After this summer, no way! Although last winter was pretty wild! Craziest winter we’ve had.
So many PA Bees!!!
@Bluespurs Ha! After this summer, no way! Although last winter was pretty wild! Craziest winter we’ve had.
So many PA Bees!!!
I grew up in the Bay Area in California (San Francisco) which I really love, possibly because of my bias of growing up there. 🙂 It’s often really nice weather, about 60s all year, and is a super diverse area, with amazing burritos (which I really miss not having). The downside is high cost of living, and there’s no seasons really…but otherwise it’s really nice. Also, jobs are kind of blah, but I guess that also depends on your industry.
I also lived in Santa Cruz, CA for about 6 years (about 2 hours south of the Bay Area). I went to college here, and stayed on for a bit. It’s super beautiful…Redwood trees and oceans…really mellow and peaceful…also super duper liberal, which can be good or bad depending on political views. It’s expensive for cost of living though, and after awhile felt sort of small.
My fiance is from Maine, though more rural Maine (town of 1000 MAYBE), and Maine is super nice too. I did a lot of traveling through the state with him…it’s really beautiful, and low cost of living I think. The downsides that prevent me from wanting to live there…its not very diverse, and it seems like much of the state exists at a lower-middle class level, whihc isn’t necessarily a bad thing, though not the kind of economic status I was used to…but it is super beautiful, and mellow.
Now I live in NYC, in Queens, one of the outer burroughs. I like it a lot…we live in a quiet (comparively) neighborhood, and are close to LOTS of good inexpensive restaurants, and super markets, and everything else. We’re really close to Manhattan, which has everything…but living away from Manhattan is nice because we’re not in the chaos, though it’s accessible. 🙂
I also love reading the couple responses from Minneapolis. I visisted there last April and loved some of the inner neighborhoods north of downtown.
I live in Portland, Oregon. On one hand I LOVE it. I knew I had to come here, experience its quirkiness, its people, its food, its beer. I especially came here for my career. Although I am currently in a funk where I’m wondering if perhaps I’m ready to move on (I’m bitterly underemployed for five months now). My favorite aspects of Portland: dense urban area that is not big like NYC but still compact; I don’t own a car and bike everywhere; Portlanders are very gay friendly; Portlanders love anything “green” and “sustainable”; Farmers markets and good food are no brainers here; cost of living is relatively okay. I’m not a fan of all the gray. I hate heat, so at least there are rarely days above 90 degrees here. I prefer stronger seasons.
Prior to Portland, I’ve lived in western Massachusetts; Monterey, CA; and Ventura, CA. I LOVED Massachusetts- it was quaint, seasonal, historic, beautiful. The main issue was that it was 3000+ miles from family. The cold/snow didn’t bother me at all because there was always three full seasons that had sun. Every now and then I get the bug to take a job in New England, especially since my SO is from New Jersey, a mere few hours drive away.
Central Coast of California was okay. It had more gray days than Portland! I’m not joking! That California coastal fog was killer. I did not like the community in MOnterey (half tourists, half military), very conservative, and the cost of living was outrageous.
I love Ventura where I grew up. It generally stays cool and still maintains sunshine. The city of Ventura itself is awesome and quirky, and is politically and socially a place I can totally see myself living in. However, cost of living is still quite high.
I have researched basically ever place and more you all have suggested. I’m actually still set on Seattle but my lovely husband has basically just told me that this location is the next he is looking to mark off of our short list due to the distance that is between Seattle and Atlanta (where my family is based). My main argument for living in America is that I am close to my parents (only child here) and he isn’t close to his at all, and although he has tons of friends here and I have few in Atlanta, his friends are older and starting to settle down .. plus America is cheaper and I’m fighting a legal battle right now so it would be very difficult to be accepted for a UK visa at the moment So he is basically using my legal battle situation and my parents residence as a way to stick to the east coast… which breaks my heart.
With that in mind I am really interested in Minnesota, artichokey basically put up a good logic argument which makes that area appealing. I have a few questions for you all.
For those that live on the east coast (D.C. Philly, Boston, Baltimore region) – do you have any southerners there. I’ve been talking to people and there is a negative stereotype of New Englanders – that they are mean, or really just cold compared to the south. I should point out that I was raised right outside of Atlanta and do not come across as southern except for my ya’lls.
Also for anyone in Minnesota, does it really snow for 6 months? My husband wants snow and when I mentioned that it wasn’t just snowing for a couple of weeks in the northern United States he acted like he wasn’t bothered. He stated that the difference is that when it snows in Georgia or even England people freak out and become hermits but that it would be nice to live in a place where snow is expected and people go about their daily lives without interuption. So to all my notherners, when it snows do you just deal with it – is this correct?
Well DC is somewhat southern (both VA and MD are southern states). I do not believe people are mean there. The biggest change for me in moving north was that the food is so different!! My bf’s family are northerners and I get homesick visiting them during big holidays because I want southern cooking. They didn’t know about pecan pies or biscuits or Christmas hams…
Baltimore and DC flip out with snow.
PA and NY deal with snow like champions.
I grew up outside of Philly (suburbs) so the people here are the “norm” for me. Are they as friendly as people in the south who say hi and chat with strangers a lot more? No. But I would hardly call the people here “mean”. I’m not mean and none of my friends or family are mean. The life is more hurried here though in the northeast. I think the south is more relaxed. It also depends on where you live in the northeast, too. I live in a suburb of Philly which is very friendly. Suburban life is definately different than city life.
I’ve lived in western CT and New York City and compared to the south or the west, people are not as warm. It’s a very dramatic difference, but I think more in terms of surface manner than how people are.
It’s not that they’re mean – I know the stereotype is that New Yorkers are jerks. It’s more that people are rushed and busy and don’t want their time wasted. If you like to move quickly and get to the point, you’ll be okay. People don’t really hate southerners or out of towners – they just hate having their time wasted.
As far as snow goes, I think you should ask him how he feels about snow that just does not go away – where the snow is packed down all winter long. In CT/NYC, it usually snows a few inches and then melts a few times during the winter. You can see the grass for a good part of the winter, as long as there hasn’t just been a storm. But further north in New England, or in parts of the midwest, you’re likely to have the ground covered in snow for weeks at a time. In either place, people are pretty used to dealing with it, but I know growing up in a snow-and-melt area, the idea of snow on the ground all winter long really depresses me.
Between us, my husband and I have we’re lived in WA: Seattle, CA: Long Beach, LA, and Berkley, FL: Jacksonville, Rhode Island, New Jersey and Portland, Maine. We never want to leave Portland – it’s the best place (by far!) that either of us have lived in. I grew up in Seattle, and I think the city has a lot of great things going on, especially for young professionals, but I personally wouldn’t move back there or want to raise my children there. (But that’s just me!).
We have all 4 seasons, are close to the water, and the people are (generally) really nice here, and most are laid back “live and let live” types. People are not up in your business here, which is nice. We also are 2nd only to San Francisco in the number of restaurants per capita. Sure, we have a lot less people than San Francisco, but still, we have tons of restaurants and great food options, in every budget. Everything is really close too – we live in a very quiet residential neighborhood, but we’re just 10-15 minutes from anything downtown, which is nice. Maine is not very diverse once you get outside of Portland, but Portland is getting more diverse.
It’s very easy to shop locally here – there are lots of farms and small shops to buy food, and lots of artists and craftspeople if that’s your thing too. It’s so easy to eat well without spending a fortune, and there are lots of arty things to do.
We are not sporty (at all! haha) but there’s lots of good outdoor activities around if you like sports: skiing, hiking, camping, etc.
We’re just a 2 hour drive from Boston, and about 5-6 hours from NYC. There are also trains, busses and of course planes that you can take from Portland to other New England points, so you can easily do weekends away, without spending too much time/$$$ on the transportation. You can also get to Atlanta easily (I used to come back every 5 weeks when I lived in FL, via Atlanta), and it’s a super easy JetBlue Atlanta-New York-Portland flight!
Good luck on your search!
i live in Charlotte, NC and absolutely love it here.
but i say go to Charleston SC…that is where i hope to end up one day!
No. It does not snow for six months. January and March are the ‘snowiest’ months. There may be light flurries in October (snow that melts when it hits the ground) and it’s simply that there is a potential for snow between October through April. Sure, there might be a freak blizzard in April but that definitely doesn’t mean we have snow for all those months! If I remember correctly, last year we got our first significant snowfall in November and I was digging in my garden in mid-March. While March usually does have snow, it didn’t this year. I went to NYC in Februrary and they had WAY more snow than we did. We get a few big storms (maybe 3 or 4) a winter and then more (maybe 10) lighter snowfalls. It just hangs around in yards and on curbs but it’s not like we’re trudging through freshly-fallen snow for six months. Yikes.
It’s a good point that you made about snow making people hermits. That is definitely not the case here. I have a friend who lives in Seattle and she mentioned to me one day how terrible it is when they have ice/snow because the city is ill-equipped for snow removal and salting/sanding. When it snows here, there are plows out on the roads immediately. There are salt and sand trucks moving through and keeping the roads safe for driving (and the sidewalks!) I live in Mpls where it takes a little longer to get every single side street and alley plowed, but usually within 24 hours of a significant snowfall (more than 2 inches) they will have the streets clean and back to normal.
There is actually quite a lot to do in Minnesota in the winter. St. Paul has a Winter Carnival every January complete with ice sculptures and a medalion hunt and a parade and every ten years they build a castle out of ice. It’s a two-week even in the dead of winter and it’s damn fun. There’s also pond hockey / broomball tournaments and things like that. There’s a Holidazzle parade that goes through downtown Mpls every winter before Christmas too.
Mpls and St. Paul both have elevated skyway systems in their downtowns. So for example, if you get off the train in downtown Mpls on 5th and Marquette, you enter the nearest building and go up one floor. From there you can walk pretty much anywhere in downtown, inside. It’s pretty much a web of raised sidewalks. You can see outside and there are maps all over but pretty much, it’s awesome for winter. If you end up working in either downtown, these are life savers.
So, pretty much, no. Life does not stop for six months in the winter. I will admit we do go sort of crazy in the summer/spring/fall with our outdoor carnivals and activities and there is a TON to do during the warmer months but there’s still quite a lot going on in the winter months. I was on a train in England once and we had to stop because it was snowing and they had to clear the rails. That doesn’t happen here. Snow rarely impedes us. I was living in Germany once and the entire city of Cologne shut down for what was really a dusting of snow. That was crazy to me!
MN also has a pro sports team for each major sport, hockey, baseball, basketball, football, soccer and women’s basketball. The U of M is in Minneapolis so there are a lot of games and events there and there’s a fun campus in the middle of the city. It’s also super easy to get to the U because it’s in the middle of the city, about 4 minutes away from downtown (via bus or car). The mall of america is huge and there’s an amusement park inside it so if you’re feeling like going on a log ride in the middle of January, you totally can.
Will it get cold here? Absolutely. Is there stuff to do? Tons. You can pretty much cross country ski across the entire metro area. There are downhill ski places all over too. There are about a million little B&Bs with charming fireplaces and scenic views all over. Yes, you will need good winter boots, a warm coat, mittens and a hat. If you plan on driving or owning a home with a driveway, you will need a shovel. Really, I don’t think winter her is much different than most of the rest of the northern half of the US.
I’m still rooting for MA/RI!! There’s not a lot of southerners, but it’s not like you would be unusual. There’s a lot of different cities and towns. I would say that they’re pretty open minded and liberal in that area. There is a bit of pushiness or rushing around, I think, but that also depends on if you live in a city or the suburbs. Also, people don’t drive well. But you would be on the east coast and a flight out of the Providence or Boston airport wouldn’t take long to Atlanta, and the Boston airport (Logan) has tons of international flights for your SO.
Also, in New England you get all four seasons. Snow in the winter for skiing and snowboarding, flowers blooming in the Spring, moderate summers where you can enjoy the ocean, and beautiful fall foliage.
I’m from Roanoke, VA. It’s a small city. We’re in the middle of the Blue Ridge mountains and 4 hours from DC. I love it here. I went to school here and really loved it. We experience all four seasons equally and the leaves in the fall are beautiful.
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