Post # 482
@Turtle83: @Aqualov: @rusticgirl: @phoebephoebo:
Thank you ladies and sorry for taking so long to respond… I was dealing with crazy weather issues here in the southeast and also just needed some time away from the Bee to regroup.
We were still waiting to get the actual results until THIS WEEK! The week of his SA test DH got a call from a nurse (not sure if it was from my OB’s office or the reproductive clinic) who supposedly gave him the results, but pretty much made it seem like it wasn’t really bad. She just meantioned issues with viscosity. Well I finally went to a follow up appointment with my OB this Monday and she gave me the actual results… Pretty much all numbers are abnormal, with the exception of ph and volume. Low count, low motility, very low morphology. But the worst part is the “significant agglutination/clumping”. After doing some research it looks like DH may have anti-sperm antibodies… After seeing this I remembered DH telling me years ago that he actually had an infection from a trauma to the ‘boys’, which would explain the development of the antibodies… He is taking it pretty hard… I am taking it even harder… Trying to wrap my head around this and the fact that our hope of conceiving naturally may be nonexistent. Hard to cope with the realization that our only hope may be IUI or IVF. The one consolation is that at least there’s hope–I did see some girls from doing my research that had success with IUI or IVF for this condition. We made an appointment for DH with a urologist, but it’s not until end of March… Which of course is driving me crazy. For the time being, DH started taking FertilAid for men in hopes of at least increasing the quality of the sperm. I’m just trying to keep calm and wait to see what the urologist suggests–is there anything we can do or do we go straight to IUI. Also repeating the progesterone test this cycle to confirm that it is really low (last one was 7.25, but my OB was not concerned about it).
Sorry for the rambling… How is everyone else doing?
I’m so sorry about your results also… What is your DH’s doctor recommending?
How did your DH’s most recent SA turn out? Hopefully the numbers are better with him making some changes. DH and I were talking yesterday about how ackward the collection process was for him at the RE’s office. 🙂 I’m sure he would prefer doing it at home, but I don’t think our clinic allows it.
I had the same feelings about not thinking that it will ever be me on these boards, much less that I’ll have to go the IUI or IVF route… Ahhh, go figure. Then again, no one thinks that it will take them months or even years of TTC.
Did you figure out your O dilemma? As for your spotting, have they done a progesterone test yet?
Post # 483
I’m so sorry about your DH’s SA results. I am keeping my fingers crossed that the urologist is able to give you some suggestions and answers. Either way, knowledge is always power and at least you know what you’re dealing with now, so you can take the right steps to get your BFP!
As for me, everything still seems confusing. My chart looks annovulatory at this point. I brought it in to the nurse at the cycle monitoring clinic but she dismissed it, saying that sometimes people just have “weird” cycles and that my bw and ultrasound confirmed that I O’d. So I guess I just have to trust them at this point. They did a progesterone test last cycle and it was normal. They did another one this cycle too – I don’t have the results back yet but am wondering if my progesterone will be low this month and maybe that’s why I never got a good temp spike? I don’t know … I also just found out that I am dealing with a thin uterine lining, so we are going to have to deal with that somehow because you can’t sustain a pregnancy with a thin uterine lining. It is scary because, if they can’t fix that, you can’t even hope for a BFP with IUI or IVF – you have to start considering a gestational carrier (which I wouldn’t personally do). I have an appointment with my RE in 2 weeks to discuss what our treatment plan will be.
This is all so hard. I have always been terrified that I would have problems TTC (not that I had a reason to think that, it was just sort of a worst fear kind of thing) – so lately everything feels like a nightmare coming true 🙁
Post # 484
Sorry I didn’t update this thread! I’ve been spending a lot of time over on the 1+ year thread, I forgot about this one! His SA was better, not great but a big improvement!
He went from 600k/ml, 40% motility, 50% morphology and 3 total ml to 5 mil/ml, 45% motility and stayed at 50% morphology and have a total of 4ml. We were pretty happy with the results, but DH’s urologist wasn’t much help, he wanted to put him on testosterone for his low T (his testosterone barely improved since last time) which I knew is bad for sperm so immediately I found a specialist in MFI and we got an appointment. The new doctor is amazing he didn’t sugar coat anything he was SUPER honest and basically told us there isn’t much he can do to bring DH’s numbers up, as it stands without knowing any difficulties I may have IVF would be our only real option (besides natural spontaneous conception). But if we can get DH’s numbers in the 10mil/ml range IUI would be a good option (again with not knowing if I have any difficulties… he encouraged me to go get tests done as well). He put DH on Clomid to help with the testosterone but stressed that it won’t make much difference in DH’s numbers. But he does want to get an SA done at HIS lab because he wasn’t too sure about the 50% morphology, that’s ridiculously high so he thinks they are pretty lax and wants to get a baseline at his lab. So in a few weeks DH is getting some blood work to check his hormone levels and will go make a deposit at their office, then a few days later we will go get the results.
I’m HOPING that his numbers improve more just with having more time not drinking, since his last SA was a reflection of 3 months ago, that was reflecting only 2-3 weeks of not drinking and I feel like there could have been a lag of his body still healing (he drank ALOT and has had liver issues in the past so it’s safe to assume his body had some healing to do). I’m hoping that as we get deeper into the “not drinking” phase his swimmers will get a little better each time at least until the 10mil/ml mark. I don’t think his numbers will ever be in the “normal” range. So we’re waiting, and depending on how this next SA goes and then another check once his meds would have a chance to kick in and see if they have any effect we will decide whether to do any testing on me.
We’ve wasted a lot of money with DH’s old doctor that we didn’t need to spend apparently (close to 4k!), so we want to make sure I need the tests done before we do them, and we want to try getting pregnant without help for a bit longer, as long as DH’s numbers keep climbing we are ok waiting a bit longer. 🙂
oh and PS… I TOTALLY got pulled over while bringing DH’s SA to the clinic… Talk about awkward! Luckily it was just because my breaklight was out so it was just a warning, but talk about a crazy story. lol
Post # 485
- Wedding: August 2013 - backyard in the woods
Sorry to hear about your DH’s SA results. Hopefully you will see some improvement and your usolist can help out.
Your new doctor seems to know what he’s doing, hopefully your DH’s numbers improve. LOL about getting pulled over- talk about awkward!
As for me my bloodwork all came back fine, so I’m planning a second laproscopy soon. This one will be robotic, which I think is good because I’m pretty sure I have Endo on/in my bowel now (TMI, I have really bloody bowel movements now (yea!), but only just before/during AF), which can’t be lasered out. The robotic gives the best precision, within millimeters so hopefully my new doc can get it all. Not excited about two more scar though, since the robot uses 4 holes, not 2. They’re supposedlly smaller and scar less, but still. I’m trying to decide when to have my lap. I have to defend my thesis and have it all finished/edited/bound by the end of April, and I’m a little behind, so I’m debating holding off until May. Then again, my fisrt lap wasn’t that bad, I was only really down a few days, so it it worth waiting that long? My temps have dropped so I’ll be getting AF in the next day or so, by the time I get scheduled for the lap it will be in March anyways, so it’s only a cycle or two difference. Decisions, decisions.
Post # 486
Hi ladies! I hope it’s okay that I’m joining you a little late (we just finished Cycle 8 of TTC with no BFPs at all), but I’ve been feeling pretty down lately, so I thought I might say hello, as you all seem very kind and supportive!
Cycles/months trying: Just started Cycle 9 today (TTC since June 2013- skipped the January cycle because I had a LEEP procedure to remove precancerous cells from my cervix)
Current CD/DPO: CD 1 🙁
Chart (if you have one): I stopped charting last December. My cycles are pretty consistent and predictable (27-30 days long; ovulation around days 14-17)
Any known issues? Nothing yet. I’ve had two thyroid tests and two progesterone tests, all of which came back “perfect.” My Day 3 blood test (including FSH, estrogen, LH, and prolactin) came back normal. I had a transvaginal ultrasound and was told that my uterus, ovaries, and uterine lining looked “great” and no abnormalities were spotted. DH’s sperm analysis results were normal as well. The only thing that worries me is that my periods have been mainly all blood clots, lasting 1-2 days with some brown spotting a couple days before and after. (Sorry, totally gross!!) My gynecologist has told me repeatedly that this “can be normal” and that she’s “not worried about it.” Well, I’m worried about it! It doesn’t seem normal to me! 🙁
Supplements/medications: I’ve been taking a prenatal vitamin since April of 2013. DH has been taking a multivitamin for years.
Next steps? I have an HSG scheduled for March 3rd, and my gynecologist is in the process of referring me to an RE.
FOR FUN: What’s your favorite holiday and why? Christmas has always been my favorite holiday. I really enjoy winter and the festive atmosphere, as well as the holiday music and fun decorations!
Sorry for all the yucky details. Once I got started typing, I couldn’t stop! 🙂 Thank you to anyone who actually makes it through my long roll call! Hope you all are having a nice Monday (well, as nice as a Monday can be!)!
Post # 487
I keep stalking the countdown to pregnancy galleries and getting myself excited over everyone else’s BFP’s, which in turn makes me exited about mine….excpet it doesn’t exist yet! This gets harder every month!
Post # 488
- Wedding: August 2013 - backyard in the woods
Welcome, sorry you had to join us. Has your doctor looked into endometriosis? That’s what my periods are like- it’s a common symptom. Just something to think about.
Post # 489
I’m so sorry for the late response to your questions regarding DH SA. After getting referred to an RE, I’ve started to spend my time over on the +1 year TTC thread.
Anyways, here’s my update (which I warn you is not exciting at all)! After meeting with our RE he has requested another SA for DH. DH’s first SA was at a community lab (government funded) and he said the have pretty lax standards and b/c the testing is so subjective he wants another test done at his affiliated fertility centre. The requisition is actually for a SA with trial wash, so that leads me to believe that our future route may have to be IUI or IFV. Not good in my opinion but I didn’t explain my interpretation to DH. DH kinda thinks everything will be fine and we will conceive naturally, bc that’s what his GP told him. Super frustrating as now I don’t want to be the negative one but I’m facing reality here. Anyways, long story short DH will be doing his second SA this coming Monday (we waited a bit b/c we were in my FW last week and we need to take a day off work to drive to the city to do the test).
Right now, I have DH on Fertilaid, CountBoost & Motility Boost in hopes of jump starting his numbers. He’s eating better and almost cut out drinking completely. (I’ve rarely admit it on the bee, but DH also smokes pot, much to my disliking. I am trying to get him to quit without being a nag, but it’s hard. He has anxiety and OCD and is taking Zoloft and Wellbutrin for that but I know the pot helps so I’m not sure if he’ll be able to quit completely). It’s a work in progress. I think once we know more after the 2nd SA, it may ‘shock’ him into seriously quitting. I will be bringing it up with our RE.
So, we will discuss the result with our RE after that and see what the next steps are. We may get referred to a Urologist who specialized in MFI at the clinic where we are doing the test at. At ther very least I want to get his hormones tested soon. At the same time, our RE is continuing testing on me. I’m repeating my progestorone testing this weekend (I think he missed my 1st results) and next cycle I will be doing an HSG. So far everything has come out positive on my side of things, so that’s is something to be thankful for.
So right now we are in a holding pattern, waiting for tests and results.
Sorry for my rambling! And I’m really sorry to hear about the clumping issues your DH has and that you have to wait that long for your Urologist appointment. I hope time passes quickly for you!
Post # 490
Hi there! Thank you for the welcome (I’m sorry that we both are here in the thread, but it’s nice to share experiences with others!)! It’s interesting that you asked about endometriosis, since I’ve Googled my “clotty” periods and came up with that same diagnosis, so I asked my gynecologist SEVERAL times about it, and she repeatedly has told me that she has “no reason to believe” that I have endometriosis. I even found out that my mother had endometriosis and had to have a hysterectomy at age 41, but my doctor has refused my requests for a lap, as she thinks I’m “fine.” The strange thing is that my period was actually like it used to be for me (3-4 days long, liquid, minimal spotting, etc.) in January right after my LEEP procedure, but then it went back to “clotty” after we TTC again in February. So confusing!! I have my first appointment with an RE at the end of this month, so I’ll definitely be asking about the possibility of endometriosis when I meet with him. Thank you for the heads up about it!
I had my HSG today, and while it was painful, the experience really wasn’t too bad. I took two Aleve before I went and felt perfectly fine being there by myself and driving myself home afterwards. The HSG showed good results with my right tube, but my left tube didn’t have the same “good flow and spillage” of the dye. However, they did say my left tube wasn’t completely blocked, as some dye was able to get through all the way. The doctor said that while my left tube’s results were “inconclusive,” he felt confident that I can get pregnant without too many problems. We’ll see! Hopefully the dye cleared out some cobwebs in there! 🙂
If anyone here has any specific questions about the HSG process, I’d be happy to elaborate on my experience today! Hope you’re all doing well! 🙂
Post # 490
Well, here I am. AF arrived today and I am starting cycle 6. My mom called me a little earlier to say hi and I just started bawling. Then DH called to check in, and again I couldn’t stop crying. It’s been a bad day so far. I am so glad it my work from home day.
I had my progesterone checked during cycle 3 and cycle 4, gyn wanted to confirm that I ovulate and I do.
In March 2012, my gyn found a fibroid the size of my fist sitting on my uterus. I went back 6 months later for a followup. I wasn’t engaged yet, but I knew it was coming and was hoping to start TTC once we were married. Gyn said she didn’t know what to do in my situation so she sent me to a specialist.
In December 2012, I saw a specialist. He said best course of action is to get pregnant ASAP. At that time, he didn’t recommend a myenectomy (sp) because though minimally invasive, scar tissue could leave me infertile and there is no reason why i couldn’t get pregnant with the fibroid. Plus there is a year recovery after the myenectomy.
I got engaged in February 2013, between then and the wedding in October 2013, I couldn’t convince DH is starting trying before we were married.
We started trying right after we were married in October 2013, and now here I am in March 2014.
I called my gyn this morning to see if she has any advice.
I am going to go back through and read the earlier posts to see if anyone has a similar story to me. But I’m looking forward to the support of those that are taking longer to get pregnant.
Post # 491
Welcome ladies! Sorry you have to be here.
you and I seem to be in the same spot right now, testing-results-waiting-testing again-results… It’s a roller coaster! Hope your DH’s numbers improve next time!
Post # 492
I’m really sorry to hear that AF showed her face today and you’re having such a hard go of things. But you’re in the right place, there’s lots of support here. I hope that your gyn can give you more insight on what your nexts steps are.
Yes, I’ve noticed that before about our timing/situations. God doesn’t the waiting part suck?? I hope the same for you and that your temps stay up! (totally chart stalked this morning) & a crossover from the +1 thread.
Post # 493
- Wedding: August 2013 - backyard in the woods
Sorry to see you here. I hope it’s not long. Is there a reason you can’t have a laproscopic or robotic laproscopic myenectomy? That would leave very little scarring and shouldn’t impact your fertility at all.
Post # 494
Aqualov: i guess i could have pushed the issue, but both the gyn and oncologist i saw said there was no reason why i should have the surgery then because the fibroid might not be a problem. they also said there is a chance that scar tissue could make me infertile completely. i didn’t want to risk that and they wanted me to try first. at this point, i could have been recovered from the surgery.
i spoke to my gyn yesterday evening and it seems that the fibroid might not even be my biggest issue. i believe i ovulate around CD18. AF has been arriving early and giving me some 24, 26, and 27 day cycles plus 2-5 days of spotting prior to that. This last cycle I started spotting on CD23 and had a 27 day cycle. Gyn is very concerned my Luteral phase isn’t long enough.
Per gyns suggestion, I am going to use an OPK this month to pinpoint O day. Then we will see if I need to start progesterone cream or clomid.
DH also plans to get tested at the end of this cycle.
Post # 495
I have a question, maybe someone can help with. Regarding the rule of thumb for women under 35, “a year of ttc, before seeking help”. Does this apply if your cycles are long and irregular? I’ve only had two cycles in 5 1/2 months since the pill. (Yes, I’m charting). I’ve had some diagnostics, but I just keep thinking something *must* be wrong at this point and maybe I should to go back to the doctor and dig deeper to get an answer. I’m 33 and otherwise healthy. Should I just wait it out?? This is making me so anxious : (