The Great Tiffany's debate…

posted 6 years ago in Rings
Post # 17
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: June 2014

I have a 1.25 carat internally flawless, d color diamond that did not come from Tiffany’s. I adore that we did not waste $30,000 on a stone. We traded a flawless emerald to a man at the Tuscon gem show who deals in ethically mined stones. This is where the world’s top gem cutters and dealers meet and do business. None of them have great things to say about that place. It is heavily marked up. If most ppl knew what to look for, they could have the same quality for cheaper. It is just a name. I did have a moissanite before we sold it to a customer and it looked nothing like a high quality diamond.

Post # 18
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: June 2014

A cut Herkimer diamond is impressive and shines like a diamond.

Post # 19
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: February 2018

my first ring was from tiffanys and fi got me the aquamarine colour by the yard bracelet which was really pricy for the size of it ( and i know you pay for the name too)

but i was so upset when the little gem fell out 🙁

Post # 20
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: August 1993

My e-ring and band are from Tiffany’s. (Over 1ct, princess cut solitaire and knife edge band) The diamond is flawless and IMO worth every penny. I would never need (or want) to upgrade it and am over the moon with the cut and qualilty.

I can’t fault their cusotmer services either – I’ve had the band resized more than once and they are happy to clean all of our bands (DH’s too).

Post # 21
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: October 1993

I think Tiffany rings are beautiful but I have a local jeweler that deals in high quality diamonds and does outstanding custom work.  He cleans, inspects, and services our rings free of charge.  With quality and service like that, locally, I decided to stay local.  The closest Tiffany store to me is 135 miles away.  Its not across the country, by any means, but it is far enough away to be inconvenient.  

Post # 22
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: March 2015

Check out Costco! Their diamonds are extremely high quality and gorgeous. You can check out the specs on their website but if you can, drop by a Costco and take a look. Here’s an article comparing Tiffany diamonds to Costco diamonds (they even quote people from WB!):

http://mobile.businessweek.com/articles/2013-05-06/tiffany-vs-dot-costco-which-diamond-ring-is-better

And, no, I don’t work for Costco but I’ve been told that’s where my ring is coming from so I’ve looked into it and honestly I’m thrilled about it!

Post # 23
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2015

For a different persepctive, my Fiance works with diamonds in a physics lab so he knows diamonds from a completely different aspect than most.  When he went shopping he did check out Tiffany’s, but decided that their markup was much too high.  He then went to several local places, and found some of them had no clue about diamonds!  One place insisted that there is only carbon in diamonds, no other elements, when Fiance asked about nitrogen and other elements causing internal flaws.  He eventually found a great local place where the person he worked with really knew everything there is to know, helped him pick out the best diamond for his budget, and did some custom changes on the band.  He made sure to look at the diamond under he lab microscope after purchasing and was impressed that even under his very high-powered microscope the diamond was exactly how the jeweler described it.  So, basically, Tiffany’s was nice and did have great diamonds, but you can get the same quality for much less if you know what you’re looking for and willing to shop around.

Post # 24
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: November 2013

@PermaStudent:  +1 I agree with this. I think you’re “paying for the name”.

@TGold:  +1

@MrsLuca: I’d suggest going to a professional local jeweler that has high quality diamonds and is knowledgeable. Also, cut is VERY important in a diamond.

Post # 25
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2013

Tiffany exclusively carries very high-quality diamonds at a very high markup. You know what you are getting when you buy a diamond there, certainly, and some are willing to pay the price for that assurance (you don’t really have to research diamonds to know you will get a good one at Tiffany’s because they are ALL good).

However, one can certainly purchase equal or better quality diamonds at other outlets for a better price. 

Post # 26
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Buzzing bee

@Glenda_the_good_witch:  I’d never heard of a Herkimer diamonds before- so cool! I wish they were more widely utilized in jewelry. 

Post # 27
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: December 2013

I love Tiffany’s rings and I hope to have one from there someday (like a RHR or something). We were considering buying my engagement ring from there, but we could not get the size of diamond that I wanted within our budget. And our budget wasn’t exactly low either.

I don’t think you can really go wrong with Tiffany’s, but if you know where to look, you can find wonderful high quality diamonds elsewhere, as well.

I disagree that you’re only paying for the name, but there is certainly a signficiant markup. Tiffany’s is well known, reputable, and it’s like owning anything else that is designer.. a certain prestige attached to it.

We may get my wedding band from Tiffany’s.. who knows. I want to one day just be able to walk in there and buying something REALLY expensive without having to think much of budget lol. A girl can dream…

 

Post # 28
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Blushing bee

The one thing I never was able to get past with Tiffany’s is that they grade their own diamonds, which is a major red flag for me in anything.

For sure, they have very nice diamonds and (from what I’ve experienced) good customer service, and I highly doubt its their intention to misgrade their stones at the risk of devaluing their brand, but its just the idea that they might grade a little looser than GIA/AGS, the top grading labs, that bugs me. A seller grading their own products, on something like diamonds with such minute details… its enough to make you think.

For comparison, Cartier is in the same high end market, with a very reputable brand image almost equal (if not at par) with Tiffany’s. They only carry diamonds that are GIA certified.

Post # 29
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: March 2016

Since the bf (he has the ring and still waiting for it) let me choose the ring, since I’d be wearing it, I’ve poured over tons of diamond information. Here’s my 2 cents:

– No one is ever going to tell if your ring was from Tiffany’s or not from far away (unlike say a LV or designer purse)

– A well cut diamond, regardless of vendor is the SAME THING

– More than anything, CUT CUT CUT trumphs ALL. I’m talking looking at the depth %, crown angle %, and pavilion angle %, and making that thing SPARKLE like no other. 

– CUT will enhance COLOR and hide lower CLARITY. 

– CLARITY, unless you go below I1, will not affect the integrity of the diamond. Just be aware of where the inclusions are, but no one will look at your diamond any closer than  6 inches. VVS and higher are paying for something you can’t see

Tiffany’s commands a very large premium to pay for their marketing, ads, and customer service. There are vendors that sell well cut stones, but they aren’t gonna be at Jared’s, Kay’s, or your mall stores. Your best bet for the best price is online, and you can get the GIA cert, and all sort of different scans and reports for light performance.

And like others have mentioned, Tiffany’s does not use a industry grading service, it’s their own in house. So who knows how they grade. I imagine most Tiffany diamonds are quite beautiful, you’re just paying the price.

From what I hear, Tiffany’s cuts more towards brilliance vs fire, yep there’s a slight tradeoff. If you’ve got tons of money to burn, and want brand go for it. But at least do some education, Pricescope is a good starting point, especially the FAQ. Look at a really well cut non Tiffany, that will be a lot bigger than a comparable Tiffany at the same price and you make the call. It’s a big purchase, I chose to get educated. Also there’s PLENTY of vendors making Tiffany inspired settings. Check out Whiteflash or Brian Gavin diamonds online.

I myself went with a local vendor (slight premium than online by a few hundred $), and ecstatic, my diamond is F color, VS 2, excellent optics, with a milgrain pave band, .77…..$5,800. At Tiffany’s…..same specs at least $10k I’d say there. 

Post # 30
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Bee Keeper

@kimm99:  you don’t really have to research diamonds to know you will get a good one at Tiffany’s because they are ALL good

 
Not quite. They have a lot of deeply cut stones in their inventory. According to diamond experts who prioritize optical performance, a lot of Tiffany diamonds do not perform to the best standards. Since Tiffany grades most (all?) of their diamonds in house, it’s really not an objective system of ensuring the consumer receives an excellent/ideal cut stone. However, you are much more likely to get a better cut diamond if you purchase one at random there compared to a mall jewelry store. But they are not all superior and consistent in quality and you really have to know what you’re doing to get an ideal/super ideal cut. 

Post # 31
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: March 2016

@BlondeMissMolly:  Good point, deep diamonds hide carat weight and although are 1 ct “on paper” can face up smaller, who wants that?!

Basically getting into the nitty gritty statistics to really know what kind of diamond you’re getting. Exceptional light return and optics only happen in very tight margins and %’s with diamonds….

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